Users Online Now:
GLP Poker Rooms
GiveMeGossip.com - Gossip Forum
Donate To GLP
Back to Forum
Back to Thread
REPLY TO THREAD
Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU
Ms Sans Serif
In accordance with industry accepted best practices we ask that users limit their copy / paste of copyrighted material to the relevant portions of the article you wish to discuss and no more than 50% of the source material, provide a link back to the original article and provide your original comments / criticism in your post with the article.
[quote:AgnosticDeity:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTI1Nzg2X0IzMzk1NjA4] [quote:Gamberro 27181088:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTI1NTkyX0FFQ0I3NzNF] [quote:AgnosticDeity:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTI1MTczXzQwNDZDMkZB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 27181088:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTI0NzIzXzgxMDAyRDY4] [quote:Don'tBeAfraid:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTIzNjE2XzQ2NTJEOEFB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 4294679:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTIzNTUyXzI3MTU2N0VF] [quote:Don'tBeAfraid:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTIxOTUxXzFEMEYwN0JC] [quote:Anonymous Coward 4294679:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTIxNzg2XzNDNUJDMTVG] Here are the [b]FACTS[/b] [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaLaTMaKjdY[/youtube] [/quote] Are you going to interject what you feel is a fact within that video? Or are you too lazy to try to debate? [/quote] The entire video is the "facts" done professionally. Try watching with a logical mind. I don't need to say anything, all the evidense is in the video. [/quote] Extremely lame. I post all kinds of personal statements, historical proofs by theologians and philosophers, speak to the defense of atheists and agnostics, discuss building a common dialogue around reason and the dialectic, act as an apologist for God,etc. You made a post about two entertainer magicians.... HOO BOY Complete abject failure. [/quote] I'll double that FAIL flag. Good job having an original perspective from a TV show. [/quote] And the televangelists you guys are so fond of linking videos to, who also do their own research, and are [b]ENTERTAINERS[/b] in their own right are more valid how? I don't endorse Penn and Teller, but I have watched several episodes of their show Bullshit. While I don't always fall on their side of the argument, I must admit that they generally know what they are talking about when they open their mouths. [/quote] I just got finished watching the episode, not out of respect for the lazy ass that posted the video like it were an original retort, but out of respect for the fact that beforehand I was actually already WATCHING the same season of Penn & Teller. Kinda weird, huh? Well, the whole episode was an analysis of the Bible as factually accurate in a LITERAL sense, which I think you will find many people do not agree with. I consider the majority of the Old Book to be figurative language, as that was the common method of communicating in literature in the day. The atheist speaker wouldn't disagree with me on that, and it appears the apologist wouldn't for the most part, either. To argue against the factual nature of the Bible in a literal sense, PARTICULARLY the Old Book, doesn't shift this particular conversation one way or another-- a conversation which is mostly philosophical in nature. The Bible wasn't generally interpreted in that manner until the last few centuries, and the people that follow that philosophy, with all respect, do a disservice to Christianity by putting forth shaky and potentially disprovable arguments as if they were the foundations of their faith. As Penn might say, There are two creation stories for fuck's sake! Obviously there's more to it than just black and white. But once more, [/quote] Living in the deep south I find more and more that people take the bible literally, OT and NT. Maybe its just a southern baptist thing, couldn't say. But I do agree that they do their faith a disservice by spouting prose and allegory as fact. I'm completely open to the idea of a "higher power". What I am dead set against is the mindset that my god is better than your god and you'll burn in hell for it because I'm sending you there. FACT: There is no one true religion. FACT: When you condemn someone who believes in a religion that isn't yours you do a disservice to your own cause. FACT: Man will never be able to prove through any means the existence or non existence of "God". FACT: As long as there is religion men will kill one another in God's name. Your relationship with your deity of choice is a very personal, and good thing And please remember witnessing is one thing... Browbeating is another. [/quote]
Let's get right to it.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is real.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is NOT real.
All arguments are moot without assuming a "given".
How can I say all this with certainty?
BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE NOT DREAMING RIGHT NOW, with fabricated memories and all.
No matter what, FAITH is required just to participate in whatever you think is reality.
Both atheists and God-believers base their beliefs on FAITH in experiential data.
A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold. However, the rabid atheists who argue endlessly that "there is no God" are taking the same leap of faith that the proselytizing Christians are.
SO--is there a GOD?
My experiential data (a near-death experience that was seemingly as "real" as anything else I've experienced) says YES.
That's why I believe in God.
But I'd be a liar if I said that my NDE provides "proof"--even to myself. After all, my dreams are as "real" as anything even when I'm walking on the ceiling and lightsaber fighting and flying a MIG--all with a head full of outlandish memories.
So...all of you know-it-alls arguing FOR or AGAINST the concept of "God" need to
because your arguments ARE DEMONSTRABLY FLAWED.
Pictures (click to insert)
Big Round Smilies
Aliens and Space
Friendship & Love
Misc Small Smilies
View All Categories
Next Page >>
This Is The World’s Most Amazing Clock, It’s Movement Is Completely Mesmerizing
Researchers Just Made Batteries From Mushrooms… And They’re Surprisingly Good‏
ISIS issues a grave warning to America: We have scores of "trained soldiers" positioned in 15 states and we're ready to attack.
Top Scientist Resigns Admitting Global Warming Is A Big Scam
The UN’s Disturbing Vision Of The Future Of The Internet
VIDEO: Did A UFO Shoot Down The Russian Meteor?
VIDEO: McDonalds – The Ten Most Disgusting Things Found In Its Food
Amazon Indians Say Earth Has A Subterranean World Underground
KID TAKES OUT STEP DAD HITTING MOTHER (VIDEO)
A 10 Pound “Miracle” Fruit That Smells Like Rotting Onions and Tastes Like Pulled Pork Could Save Millions From Starvation
Experts Warn Of New Facebook 'Dislike Button' Scam
NASA To Reveal 'Major Science Finding' On Mars
Pope Francis: I'm Not A Liberal, My Doctrine Is The Doctrine Of The Church
Proposed Bill Would Cease Pay For Lawmakers During Government Shutdown
Pope Claims Jesus Failed On The Cross
Something Did Happen in September
North Atlantic 'Cold Blob' a Reason for Concern, Scientists Say
While Your Attention was Focused on the Pope, Obama Did This
Daily 2 Cents: Liquid Water Found On Mars -- 'Praying Mantis Being' Encounter -- The Joyita Ghost Ship Mystery
The Shemitah that was and the shaking to come - Exclusive: Jonathan Cahn explains key manifestations that have marked 2015
Facebook Sued For Spying On Citizens of Belgium “Like The NSA”
Scientists Make Breakthrough Discovery In Predicting Earthquakes
Susan Sarandon: Pope Francis Will Be Assassinated
Disturbing Report: CERN’s LHC Might Attract Asteroids To Earth
Bio-Warfare: The Man Made Origins Of Ebola And Aids
This Flag Represents The Principle, "Fight For What You Believe In."
This Is The Rebel Flag, "You're Either Free Or You're Not."
Disclaimer / Copyright Info
with questions or comments about this site.
"Godlike Productions" & "GLP" are registered trademarks of Zero Point Ltd. Godlike™
Website Design Copyright © 1999 - 2015 Godlikeproductions.com
Page generated in 0.005s (5 queries)