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[quote:Anonymous Coward 17551129:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTI3NjY5XzE2Q0VDNEFC] [quote:Don'tBeAfraid:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTIyMTQ4XzYxNkU3MDA4] Gnostic thought has ZERO in common with Christianity. They're batting for the opposite team. Don't be fooled when they talk as if they're all about hidden knowledge in enlightenment. They really are being reverent to Lucifer, and hense worship Evil. It's a spiritual system based upon the opposite of Christianity. Their motto is "Do as though wilt...". There is no good or evil in that system. It is an abomination. [/quote] Lucifer is a made up part of the game, and it accounts for the crap the manipulators were going to pull off on this planet... The Christian thought; It is supernatural, nothing we can do about it... We have to wait until god, jesus takes care of the situation...Just be good, be re-born, don't sin anymore, be as little children, and you will be in heaven with me... Talk about diffusing any real resistance... Witches and Warlocks were burned at the stake for awakening to their nature... There is power in occult knowledge, and no, it is not evil in itself, it is neutral... The use of it lies with the holder, and it can be used for so-called evil, or so-called good, or balance purposes... The churches did not want this knowledge to spread, and dealt with the situation, in a matter of fact gruesome manner... In other words, the jig would have been up, if it was not contained... The thought is not, "do as though wilt"... The thought is "grow in spiritual knowledge", and take full responsibility for yourself... The true abomination, the true evil, is Christianity... [/quote]
Let's get right to it.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is real.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is NOT real.
All arguments are moot without assuming a "given".
How can I say all this with certainty?
BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE NOT DREAMING RIGHT NOW, with fabricated memories and all.
No matter what, FAITH is required just to participate in whatever you think is reality.
Both atheists and God-believers base their beliefs on FAITH in experiential data.
A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold. However, the rabid atheists who argue endlessly that "there is no God" are taking the same leap of faith that the proselytizing Christians are.
SO--is there a GOD?
My experiential data (a near-death experience that was seemingly as "real" as anything else I've experienced) says YES.
That's why I believe in God.
But I'd be a liar if I said that my NDE provides "proof"--even to myself. After all, my dreams are as "real" as anything even when I'm walking on the ceiling and lightsaber fighting and flying a MIG--all with a head full of outlandish memories.
So...all of you know-it-alls arguing FOR or AGAINST the concept of "God" need to
because your arguments ARE DEMONSTRABLY FLAWED.
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