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[quote:jingo 1154368:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTE0Nzk5X0M1ODE2NzZE] hey guys are we all yidiots,yid or gent which are you,yid control or DIY what do you want,the fate of the yid hun was sealed when David dIcke/ edgar cayce opened his mouth on the second centenary of the yid french revolution,what's the difference between god and yid, god wants us to be free, creates the habitat to be so,yid doesn't,the wrathschild yids have created a world where everyone's dependent on money created by them,to get it we have to work for them, we're supposed to work for god not yid bloodsucker middlemen,see abundanthope.net/nov7 PJ228 ch3/4,the curse of the world is people who set theirself up in authority over others,hierarchy of fear,13 million yids control/ destroy the world to the detriment of the rest,time we marginalised them,they have power over us because we give them our power by working for them, hatonn says he'll work with us not for us,he won't be our slave,we need to do the same,must be good fun arresting folk,handcuffing them,making their wrist hurt,locking them up,humiliating them in a cell,raiding their premises,confiscating their property,charging them etc ,interesting our yid government is the biggest perpetrator of crime: killing people/ animals,flooding the country with drugs,producing toxic food/water/air/pharmaceuticals, indoctrinating the populace with propaganda instead of truth etc, god determines the law not yids,see phoenix journal 27, the nile valley is a fertile plain because it floods once a year,you don't mess with nature,it's god at work,thanks to the yid antichrist the planet's irreparable,interesting the queen is a double,the british empire is the yid empire,they control banking/the media/governments etc,start all the wars ,pollute/ destroy the planet/ us,see protocols of the learned elders of zion,we work for yids for yid money/ vouchers to buy yid goods,all we've got to do is WITHDRAW our manpower,their corporations including government will collapse,then we can get on with living instead of slaving, see ringingcedars.com, everyone selfsufficient,each community decide its own fate, in accord with the laws of balance,see phoenix journal 27, we don't need money/ sell something to survive,look at other species,once there was a firmament/ belt of vapour round the earth,like venus now, protecting it from harsh radiation and maintaining a constant temperature,resulting in lush vegetation/ food everywhere,however it was ruptured causing the deluge/ oceans,fortunately it's being restored,see abundanthope.net, then we'll have perpetual spring,the garden of eden/ aden, help yourself,everyone selfsufficient,we don't need landownership/ deforestation,permaculture not agriculture, we don't need concrete jungle,all construction can be underground or tree houses, eight billion annunaki have been removed from inside the earth which is hollow, 1k miles thick,the poles are holes, 1k miles wide,entrances to the inner earth,see erks.org, we don't need fossil fuel,oil is the lifeblood of the earth,the continents float on it, electricity meters are C19th tesla free energy generators, using magnets/ dipoles to transform high frequency energy of the aether into low frequency energy,see cheniere.org, people get ready for the cataclysm say your catechism,expect TV announcements about the three days of darkness,maybe feb19, see abundanthope.net/feb20 wave symptoms [/quote]
Let's get right to it.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is real.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is NOT real.
All arguments are moot without assuming a "given".
How can I say all this with certainty?
BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE NOT DREAMING RIGHT NOW, with fabricated memories and all.
No matter what, FAITH is required just to participate in whatever you think is reality.
Both atheists and God-believers base their beliefs on FAITH in experiential data.
A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold. However, the rabid atheists who argue endlessly that "there is no God" are taking the same leap of faith that the proselytizing Christians are.
SO--is there a GOD?
My experiential data (a near-death experience that was seemingly as "real" as anything else I've experienced) says YES.
That's why I believe in God.
But I'd be a liar if I said that my NDE provides "proof"--even to myself. After all, my dreams are as "real" as anything even when I'm walking on the ceiling and lightsaber fighting and flying a MIG--all with a head full of outlandish memories.
So...all of you know-it-alls arguing FOR or AGAINST the concept of "God" need to
because your arguments ARE DEMONSTRABLY FLAWED.
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