Users Online Now:
GLP Poker Rooms
GiveMeGossip.com - Gossip Forum
Donate To GLP
Back to Forum
Back to Thread
REPLY TO THREAD
Thread for Atheists & Christians - STFU
Ms Sans Serif
In accordance with industry accepted best practices we ask that users limit their copy / paste of copyrighted material to the relevant portions of the article you wish to discuss and no more than 50% of the source material, provide a link back to the original article and provide your original comments / criticism in your post with the article.
[quote:Anonymous Coward 33254054:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTE3NzA0Xzc4NDcwRjc3] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1518033:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1ODkxMTA0X0EyOERCNDdE] Atheists and Christians usually don't argue specifically if there is a God or there is not a God on this newsgroup. We usually argue if Jesus Christ existed at all and if Jesus Christ is God. We argue if the current cannoized Christian Bible is with error or completely without error. Since the Bible is full of contradictions, we know for a fact that it is with error. Did Judas hang himself or did he fall to his death? A Christian appologist might say that he hanged and when he was cut down, his guts burst out. People who believe that the Bible is without error constantly make these kind of contrived appologies. One appology might seem o.k., but when Christians make thousands of appologies trying to say that the Bible is without error and says the same thing, then they are lying to themselves and to us. Now God is a subjective thing. I can worship breasts and bottoms and money. God to many people is a person that has never lied and a person who hates slavery. Well we know from the Bible that Jesus lied. John 7:8-10. A Christian appologist would say he just changed his mind. "but as it were in secret" is pretty deceptive for God. Jesus also said beat slaves even though the slaves didn't know they were doing wrong. Luke 12:47-48. A Christian appologist would say that it is just a parable, a story. But a story teaches, and Jesus was teaching slavery. If he was God, the kind of God I would worship, he would say, free your slaves. Jesus Christ was never even mentioned together before 325 a.d. Jesus wasn't even a person's name before then. In fact, we do know who wrote several parts of the Bible because we can study early versions of it and see how it changed. We can learn a lot of things by what was mentioned early on and what wasn't. For example, the entire New Testament and Christianity is based on Revelation, a book on Astrology by Apollonius, which was never meant to be publically read. We know that Lucius Plutarchus who was a very famous Roman and royal historian, was the original Luke of the Bible because both men have the same personal history, born in the same town, died in the same place. We know that the travels of Paul (Apollonius) were really the conquest paths of Titus. And we know that the religion of Mythras later was turned into the religion of Christianity. [/quote] You are correct. Suggested reading The Pagan Christ by Tom Harpur. [/quote]
Let's get right to it.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is real.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is NOT real.
All arguments are moot without assuming a "given".
How can I say all this with certainty?
BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE NOT DREAMING RIGHT NOW, with fabricated memories and all.
No matter what, FAITH is required just to participate in whatever you think is reality.
Both atheists and God-believers base their beliefs on FAITH in experiential data.
A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold. However, the rabid atheists who argue endlessly that "there is no God" are taking the same leap of faith that the proselytizing Christians are.
SO--is there a GOD?
My experiential data (a near-death experience that was seemingly as "real" as anything else I've experienced) says YES.
That's why I believe in God.
But I'd be a liar if I said that my NDE provides "proof"--even to myself. After all, my dreams are as "real" as anything even when I'm walking on the ceiling and lightsaber fighting and flying a MIG--all with a head full of outlandish memories.
So...all of you know-it-alls arguing FOR or AGAINST the concept of "God" need to
because your arguments ARE DEMONSTRABLY FLAWED.
Pictures (click to insert)
Big Round Smilies
Aliens and Space
Friendship & Love
Misc Small Smilies
View All Categories
Next Page >>
EXCLUSIVE: LEAKED REPORT PROFILES MILITARY, POLICE MEMBERS OF OUTLAW MOTORCYCLE GANGS
A key source clues me in on TPP code of silence
It Is Mathematically Impossible To Pay Off All Of Our Debt
"Raider Focus" - Colorado Braces For Largest War Games Since WWII
ObamaFail: Affordable Insurance Rates Set To Skyrocket 50%… Again
GOOGLE TONE SHARES LINKS TO COMPUTERS WITHIN EARSHOT USING BEEPS AND BOOPS
Sweetener Stevia Was Once Hailed As An Anti-Fertility Agent for Population Reduction
SIX BALTIMORE OFFICERS INDICTED IN DEATH OF FREDDIE GRAY
False Alarm of the Day: Someone Called 911 After Seeing Car With Stuffed Tiger on Roof
Americans Have No Idea What They Are Eating
City Council Votes to Ban Mind Control Weapon Use Against Residents
Obama’s Education Secretary Wants Government Boarding Schools
Is This Global Drought Being Caused By The Systematic Destruction Of The Hydrologic Cycle?
“Smart” Meters Halted by Regulators in Indiana
Whites moving to Detroit, city that epitomized white flight
Hackers Stole More Than 1 Million Records from a Health Care Company
Wall Street’s Hot New Financial Product: Your Rent Check
Obama Links Islamic Terrorism to Climate Change
World Trade Organization Overrules U.S. Country-of-Origin Rules for Meat Products
Wave of medical police state refugees to flee California if SB 277 signed into law
40 Percent of Unemployed Have Quit Looking for Jobs
Special Operators Are Using Rapid DNA Readers, The Police Will Be Too Soon
NYPD Admits They Have Been Arresting Too Many People, Considering Amnesty For 1.2 Million
BP oil spill caused biggest dolphin die-off in Gulf history – study
Google Fiber users suspected of downloading illegal content may find automatic demands for money
Disclaimer / Copyright Info
with questions or comments about this site.
"Godlike Productions" & "GLP" are registered trademarks of Zero Point Ltd. Godlike™
Website Design Copyright © 1999 - 2015 Godlikeproductions.com
Page generated in 0.005s (5 queries)