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[quote:Don'tBeAfraid:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTE5NjUzXzdBNDk3Mzk1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 10792566:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTE5MzM1X0MzQkJCM0NE] [quote:Don'tBeAfraid:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTE5MjM4X0JDQzhBNTQ3] [quote:Anonymous Coward 10792566:MV8yMTI2NzkzXzM1OTE5MjAzXzM3MkYwQw==] That is the kind of strange backwards logic that makes no sense to me. Either the bible is without error, and the dates are correct, or they are metaphor. It cannot be both. [/quote] You wrote so briefly that it's impossible to determine your meaning. Expand on what you said please. [/quote] I really don't have the energy to the rounds today. The argument is stale, goes nowhere and matters to me not what you believe. Changes nothing. I've seen no evidence that would sway my opinion either way. I only would caution an affirmation in one over the other. Stranger things have happened than a man, 50 years or older changing his spiritual perosna. On that note, I must return to the immense pain of [b]my Pylonidal cyst[/b]. Good day, Sir. [/quote] At least you have a sense of humor, and must be an intellectual to have used the bolded term. That went over most of the crowd. I took advanced medical training so I started laughing! (He said he has a boil on his ass.) [/quote]
Let's get right to it.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is real.
No one can prove that "God" or any variation thereof the concept is NOT real.
All arguments are moot without assuming a "given".
How can I say all this with certainty?
BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE NOT DREAMING RIGHT NOW, with fabricated memories and all.
No matter what, FAITH is required just to participate in whatever you think is reality.
Both atheists and God-believers base their beliefs on FAITH in experiential data.
A true atheist "lacks a belief" and that is a perfectly honest position to hold. However, the rabid atheists who argue endlessly that "there is no God" are taking the same leap of faith that the proselytizing Christians are.
SO--is there a GOD?
My experiential data (a near-death experience that was seemingly as "real" as anything else I've experienced) says YES.
That's why I believe in God.
But I'd be a liar if I said that my NDE provides "proof"--even to myself. After all, my dreams are as "real" as anything even when I'm walking on the ceiling and lightsaber fighting and flying a MIG--all with a head full of outlandish memories.
So...all of you know-it-alls arguing FOR or AGAINST the concept of "God" need to
because your arguments ARE DEMONSTRABLY FLAWED.
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