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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 31735180:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MDk3NjMxXzE4Njc5MjE5] Its feasible, i heard of someone who got recognize as such, but the troubles and hassle of living as a sovereign being is immense, you need to be devoted to the idea, fully. No more social security number, that means no more conventional jobs so no more taxes even though the government will sue you for not paying them, no drivers permit so no new cars and no insurances, no bank accounts so no mortgage to buy a house, though thats more a blessing once you understand how it works. No matter how much education you have, no matter how many diplomas you got, they will drag you to the mud and make sure you never practice in your field ever again. Only a handful of people are successful in getting their freedom back. That means the authorities will have a lot of attention to give you and make your life a living hell. Imagine minding your business, driving from the supermarket in your old beat up car with no plates. The cops stop you. They ask for your papers, you aint got any. They cuff you and put you in a cell. On top of the astronomical fine you'll get, you'll probably end up being evaluated for mental stability after trying to explain why their "laws" dont apply to you and that as a free and natural person, you can do pretty much as you please as long as it doesn't impede on the universal rights of others. They'll laugh and throw the key out. They cant and wont understand. Once you go down that path, every damn conversation is a fucking battle. More likely lost in advance. My tip. Live your life as free of material possessions as possible and move around, a lot. Make your own adventure. We may be slaves, but last time i checked, we choose to put the shackles on and restrict our lives. A moving target is more hard to kill than a stationary one. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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