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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 32235185:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTU5ODA5X0Q5N0MyRDc1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTU2NzMwX0Q4QjI5MTc5] I wonder if the shill from SPLC would like to bring not discuss jury nullification here too? Since juries can actually disregard all instructions from the judge and/or evidence and make their own choice in a trial, that kind of proves the power is inherent in the people, not the Judge nor the court. Actually, if even ONE jury member refuses to "go along" the result is a hung jury, effectively ending the case, not even the all powerful Oz judge can stop it from happening. The more one knows, the more one sees, all the power we need is already ours. NONE of it needs to be surrendered to Bankers or judges or politicians. We could talk about citizens arrest powers too, or just ignore them since we are "bugs" and the government is "windshield". [/quote]Oh we have a domestic terrorist here. [/quote]
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I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
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"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
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“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
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link to kfor.com
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I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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