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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTYxNjgyX0VGRDAxQzA=] [color=darkblue][i]There are people there who have been through the cracking the code thing and are having hell with I R S, but the demand is doing more than anything else they have done to date.[/i][/color] Yet when you ask who these people are....you know, with actual names....and proof that their argument worked with the IRS, you get evasions, excuses and useless vagueness. So apparently this plan is foolproof....as long as you're Elvis, Bigfoot, Colonel sanders, the Easter Bunny, or Optimus Prime. Back in the real world, expect folks to get *really* vague when you ask for specifics. They can't even explain their logic. Why would 'demanding redemption' magically make you immune to taxation? They can't say. Its just another in an endless litany of 'incantations of the month' that they insist will exploit a loophole that they are desperate to convince you must exist....[i]but no law or court recognizes.[/i] Ask Hendrickson, Benson, Meredith, Schiff or Carr how well these magic spell arguments work out. When they're all out of prison, of course. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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