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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
Ms Sans Serif
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 1246378:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTYyNzkyXzQ5MUY1NTg=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 17551129:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTYyNjA2X0QzRkNFMDNG] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1246378:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTYyNDE1XzUwNkE1NEFB] [b]It has been fun posting but I'm done. You are Sovereign because you were born Sovereign. Simple as that I've never even heard your president talk J because I don't watch TV anymore already for a long long time I have nothing to do with your system J because it doesn't exist in my world I could care less about health care or all the other nonsense because I'm not a party to it because I never agreed to it Yes I AM THE KING in my world J. You are a subject to a fiction and you choose to be. Anyways at some point you'll realize everybody is waking up and this [u]system will collapse on its own[/u]. It's only a matter of time. Best of luck serf J[/b] [/quote] The enrgies are in place that ensures this... What is interesting - the sequence of events... [/quote] Their fraudulent system will collapse on its own Just use common sense with people. Don't talk about the legalese because its their system and it's unimportant Most people where I live already know about the scam of the system but it's a special place. I educate everybody I come across I say. You were born right? When did you consent to the system with FULL DISCLOSURE to terms and conditions? When did you give the corporation USA and the corporation called the State jurisdiction over you? People usually respond angrily and say "I never consented" I tell them that is the gist of the Sovereign thing If you simplify things people understand. Use common sense Common sense will implode this system. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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