Users Online Now:
GLP Poker Rooms
Donate To GLP
Back to Forum
Back to Thread
REPLY TO THREAD
Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
Ms Sans Serif
In accordance with industry accepted best practices we ask that users limit their copy / paste of copyrighted material to the relevant portions of the article you wish to discuss and no more than 50% of the source material, provide a link back to the original article and provide your original comments / criticism in your post with the article.
[quote:Anonymous Coward 19307394:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTYyODI4X0NFQzgyQjA=] "... two national governments exist; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions, the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument. By exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will result ... We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism ... It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence." Downes v. Bidwell, Supreme Court 1. The original United States that was in operation until 1860; a collection of sovereign Republics in the union. Under the original Constitution the States controlled the Federal Government; the Federal Government did not control the States and had very little authority. 2. The original United States has been usurped by a separate and different UNITED STATES formed in 1871, which only controls the District of Columbia and it’s territories, and which is actually a corporation (the UNITED STATES CORPORATION) that acts as our current government. The United States Corporation operates under Corporate/Commercial/Public Law rather than Common/Private Law. http://www.patriotsoath.com/history.html [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
Pictures (click to insert)
Big Round Smilies
Aliens and Space
Friendship & Love
Misc Small Smilies
View All Categories
Next Page >>
Share a Coke With WHO!? Has Coca-Cola Gone Too Far With This One?
Get ready: Biblical 'Shemitah' begins this week - rabbi warns America of God's 7-year judgments
Fox News priest demands government ban Satanic masses ‘in the name of free speech
Tax refunds will be cut for Obamacare recipients.
Liberals OUTRAGED at Gun Company’s ‘Presidential’ Name for New Product
Secret weapon to take over America revealed
CDC says combining the annual FluShot with other vaccines raises risk of febrile seizure in kids
Fox News Conspiracy About Undocumented Immigrants Voting Gets Debunked By Its Own Contributor
Food stamp system to go down across New York this weekend
Mutated Ebola virus could spread like flu, says Purdue University biologist
Cameras to Detect ‘Abnormal’ Behavior
West Virginia cops tout major bust for illegal ginseng harvesting
Scientists Say They've Created A Freaky New Form Of Light
A Closer Look: Your (online) life after death
Adoption/Child Welfare Bill H.R. 4980 Passed By Senate, Heads to President
4Chan strikes again by tricking gullible iPhone users into charging their phones in the microwave
A slow-motion disaster in the making for Sunshine State
BOMBSHELL: DHS Forced to Admit to Terrorists Caught at Texas Border
New Evidence Confirms Columbus had Map
The CDC, NIH & Bill Gates Own the Patents On Existing Ebola & Related Vaccines
Public University Requires Students to Submit Their Sexual History.
What a Dental Hygienist Found in Her Patient’s Mouths Forced a Company to Take Action
Satanists Handing Out Religious Literature at Schools
Comcast Denies It Will Cut Off Customers Who Use Tor, The Web Browser For Criminals
Expect the Unexpected: More 9.0 Megaquakes Are Coming, Study Says
We're dropping truth bombs like it's the end of days!
Disclaimer / Copyright Info
with questions or comments about this site.
"Godlike Productions" & "GLP" are registered trademarks of Zero Point Ltd.
Website Design Copyright © 1999 - 2014 Godlikeproductions.com
Page generated in 0.006s (5 queries)