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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY0MDY3X0QzNDc1NDQx] [quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY0MDMxXzQ3NTMwNTMx] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTYzOTg2X0E4QzU0QTZG] [quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTYzOTYzXzQ2MkM5MzZF] [i][color=darkblue]ubject by birth, therefore, no performance is required by ME, as I did not choose where I was born.[/color][/i] More chickenshyte excuses wy you won't possibly put your babble to the test? Gotta love the 'sovereign citizen' mentality: "Oh, I could violate any law with impunity that I wanted to because the laws don't apply to me. I...I just don't want to." Laughing....sure you don't buddy. [/quote] Laughing is not proof, prove your jurisdiction over me, now. Prove it, J. [/quote] You've been given the process by which your theory can be tested. You simply refuse to test your theory...giving us excuse after excuse [b]why you can't possibly do it. [/b] Demonstrating more elegantly than anything I can post that you don't believe your bullshyte anymore than I do. Keep running. Intellectual integrity and moral courage are right behind you. And they look hungry! [/quote] Prove it, subject by birth is your claim, no performance needed by me. Prove I am your subject, ass wipe! (thats another one for your list) [/quote]
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I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
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"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
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“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
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link to kfor.com
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I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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