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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
Ms Sans Serif
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 11256851:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MDk3OTQ0XzJDMTBCNzZD] [quote:Anonymous Coward 29203778:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MDk3NDA1XzM3QTNEMUFE] "Sovereign citizen" ... you can be one or the other but not both. [/quote] I agree in another way: 1. You/I can be citizen or not; 2. You/I cannot find the resources to defend own full/ true sovereignity. Sovereignity is linked by the understanding the Lord created the Man and gave the Earth as own dominion. A masonic state, (=prayers to death evils) do you think will agree and/or respect this??? Such mind construct entity (state) is "working" with another mind construct entity (person) because dead thing can be connected to dead thing. A state is not a man to talk, share the life. People "covered"/hidden with/by titles, climbed in powerful positions are "working" for the dead, virtual monster is the state pretending they understand what needs the dead from we, the living creatures. As citizen, the power to decide and the right to use the force are given to the corporation. As sovereign the one must have the self defending power of his life, fsmily, dominion. Citizenship and Sovereignity do mot match. A sovereign do not obey corporate rules and does not keep the registered name (last, surname, ... "family"!? name) and is defined by the land he's dominant - has the power of decision and free action. Too many people on a determined area made possible to organize groups with opposed goals, to fight for supremacy; once the tribe, the people, the kingdom, the nation, ... were created the freeman or sovereign attribute was "given" to the IDEA OF GROUP, where individuals are connected by rules of sharing the resources and to defend together: the people, the land, the assets, the peace... Tell me please where can be found a place on Earth not occupied/claimed by a corporation... they "conquered" every square inch of land.. and the water is still a place to fight as a free... pirate, ... before the [joined] armed forces sent by corporations are hunting/killing the "terrorists". [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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