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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:J 34311994:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MDk4NjQ1XzgyOEQwOTE=] [i]"'heir system is all about convolution and the IMPLIED (their implied) definitions of words and the hidden meanings behind those words.'"[/i] Implied according to who? Hate to break this to you..but you don't get to decide what the law is 'supposed' to mean. Nor do you get to 'imply' whatever meaning you wish to the wording of the law. This is the great disconnect with the sovereign citizens and the reason for their near perfect record of failure. They *genuinely* believe that the law means whatever they imagine it does. And that the courts and the government are somehow bound or limited by whatever pseudo-legal gibberish they invent. Um, no. They aren't. The gibberish is irrelevant. The law doesn't change just because you imagine it does. Nor do you get to decide what the law is supposed to mean. That's what the legislature and judiciary are for. They're authoritative. You by yourself, aren't. You can't get around that. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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