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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
Ms Sans Serif
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[quote:J 34311994:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MDk4Njk1X0JEODZBRURD] [i]"By what right does a government unilaterally deem citizenship upon a human being? I do not recall entering a citizenship contract with any government. Government: please produce the contract. This is the crux of the matter: one is born free, not a subject by virtue of a geographical happenstance."[/i] Says you, citing yourself. Who says that citizenship must involve a 'contract'? You do, citing yourself. Which is meaningless....as you don't define any legal principle. [b]This is the crux of the matter. [/b]Just because you *imagine* that you're immune to the law doesn't mean that your imagination changes the law in the slightest. You don't decide which laws apply to you and which laws don't. [b]We do. [/b]And by 'we', I mean the people through their elected representatives. The people were here before you were. And they'll be here long after you're gone. They have authority collectively that you do not possess. But hey, don't take my word for it. Go to court and see how well your 'self declared laws' work for you. You'll quickly learn what virtually every 'sovereign citizen' before you to try that has learned: Your imagination doesn't amount to much. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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