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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY1Mjc1XzlGNkFCNzI3] [i]Personal service is trading your personal time for a fixed dollar amount also known as your salary. Your not gaining anything if you are providing personal service. So how could the IRS tax your gains from income?[/i] Or wages. And of course you're giving something if you're working: your labor. There's no exemption from 'personal service'. If you get paid, that income is taxable. This particular legal principle has been tested and tested over and over again. Your argument has found no traction with the courts since say, the passage of the 16th amendment. Which lifts any apportionment issues. The 16h amendment is crystal clear: [i]The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, [b]from whatever source derived[/b], without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.[/i] There's no exemption for personal service. You've imagined it. And no law nor court recognizes such an exemption. Which might explain all the prison time and heavy fines associated with folks foolish enough to try and use this reasoning in court. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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