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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 1246378:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY1MzMxX0ZEQTlEQzBE] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY1MjUyXzMzMzg0MDA2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1246378:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY1MjIzX0I3RUU2NTc=] [quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY1MDM0XzhGODU5NkRC] [color=darkblue][i]Since you clearly have failed to prove your claim, how about you provide your evidence I am subject to the US Government. It should be simple enough, GO.[/i][/color] You're subject to the law of the land. If you're in the US, then you're subject to the laws of the US. And if you violate one and we catch you, you will be subject to the law. Which of course you already know. Which is why you don't dare violate a law where anyone might catch you. If your theory had actual merit....none of that would be necessary. Demonstrating rather elegantly that even you don't believe your nonsense claims. Keep running. [/quote] There is no law of the land. The law is a fiction created by some people who got together and created it. I never agreed to it so it doesn't apply to me [/quote] I would think law of the land is things like "if you play in the mud, you get muddy" or "water is wet" those are laws of the land, right? [/quote] Yeah that sounds about right. [/quote]
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I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
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"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
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“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
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link to kfor.com
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I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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