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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Shingen:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY1ODg3X0ZCNkI0RjEy] [quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTY1ODI2Xzc2ODM5NzBF] But wait.....didn't you say that what was 'moral violence' was judged by the individual? That they decide individually if their violence is moral? That they can use *any* basis they want? If the 'alphabet agency' folks believe their violence is moral, then per your reasoning.... [b]...it is![/b] Why then would you have a problem with 'moral violence'? Or is this where you just start calling me names again and storm off in a huff? [/quote] No, that's what you said. I said it wasn't my job to force my moral code, but an individual had to choose their own moral code, and not the State through the threat and use of force. You pulled the rest out of your ass. As far as the alphabet agencies, it just proves the hypocrisy of the fucked up system that you worship. [/quote]
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I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
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"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
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“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
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link to kfor.com
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I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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