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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTcyODMyX0M4NDI3MzVG] [i]That's the reason I advise people to read Title 26 and fully understand every word. You've read the entire code right?[/i] My study has focused on all the sections related to the filing and tax payment requirements….say, Title 26, § 6011 to about 6151. And many of the court cases in which 'sovereign citizens' have challenged those section insisting that there is no obligation to pay income taxes. As Benson, Schiff, Carr, Brown and a litany of others learned....oh, there definitely is. Remember, and this is fundamental: the pseudo-legal gibberish that you folks tell *each other* doesn't actually have any relevance to the law. As the 'legal principles' (ie: anything written in caps is a corporation or trust) and legal definitions (for example, that the US is only the district of Colombia), aren't recognized by the law or the courts. So what's the use of a legal argument that you can't use in court? Nothin'. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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