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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 32235185:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTczNjYyXzcxN0NENzU=] [quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTczMTM4XzlGRkFDNkFC] [i][color=darkblue]Frankly J seems like a trust fund kid who thinks he knows everything but in reality only knows that with money, people are easy to manipulate into agreeing with him. He also knows that with money to 'pay the man' the system works very well in defending him when his mouth writes checks on his ego account that he cannot back up physically.[/color][/i] I'll add 'trust fund kid' to the elaborate and quite bizarre list you guys have made up for me. Lets see,according to the 'list', I'm a government agent, a paid shill of the government, a paid shill of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a paid shill for something called 'quatloos', an 'elite', a Jew (they were a little vague on the spelling), a member of the Illuminati, a communist, a socialist, or lawyer, a domestic terrorist, an IRS agent and oh wait.... a trust fund kid. You sovereign citizen types do love your labels. And folks are persuaded by my argument because it makes sense. [i]The law and the courts are more authoritative on the law than you are, citing yourself.[/i] And done! Its persuasive because its true. The fact that its simple and self evident is just gravy. [/quote] No labels... just ignorance of the law is no excuse. If you break the law, we will punish you. So be careful who you may steal from. Also don't give me it's a legal form of transfer of wealth. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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