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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
Ms Sans Serif
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[quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTc0MDMzXzk0M0Q0REFE] [quote:Anonymous Coward 32235185:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTczODEzXzM1Q0Y0NjJF] [quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTczNzE1X0Q3RjBBNDI2] [color=darkblue][i]No labels... just ignorance of the law is no excuse. [/i][/color] Clearly Title 26 doesn't say what your ilk think it does. As you consistently lose in court. As yup, you are required to pay taxes. [/quote] Are you labeling me? You sound like a walking contradiction. We catch you breaking the law we will punish you. [/quote] Seems you recognize that the law is authoritative, and you citing yourself aren't. You can be taught! Just remember that if ever the 'sovereign citizen' folks try to find a new sacrificial lamb to test out their latest pseudo-legal gibberish. As these guys are *big* into bold declaration and false bravado....[i]on the internet.[/i] But they won't actually test these theories themselves [i]in the real world[/i]. They might try and convince you to test them in their stead however. Its probably not a good idea to let them talk you into being another Ed or Elaine Brown, another Schiff, Brown or Carr. As these poor, stupid bastards aren't diggin' prison. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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