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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTc0NDI2X0ZBNDUyMEJG] [color=darkblue][i]on't steal or you'll be in their with your friends, Ed, Elaine, Schiff, and oothers.[/i][/color] Yeah, those poor stupid bastards. Folks like me tried to warn them that all the made up nonsense forwarded by the 'sovereign citizen' folks was useless flotsam. But they didn't listen. And this morning they had their breakfast served to them through a slot in the door. While the 'sovereign citizen' folks may believe that whatever silly theories they come up with somehow binds the courts......the courts don't. And this is the grand disconnect. Between what the sovereign citizens *say* is the law. And what the law *actually* is. The record of failure is so overwhelming, that most of the 'sovereign citizen' folks who are so brave in their declarations *online*, won't dare test their theories in real life. But they might try to convince you to test the theories for them....knowing full well that you'll most likely go to jail. But better you than them, right? [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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