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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 17551129:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTc2MjY2XzMwQUQ1MTgy] [quote:J 34504191:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTc1MjQ0X0ZFMjBGREMy] [i][color=darkblue]My opinion - the answer digs far deeper then what I believe is a false drug war, and here we go down the conspiracy trail... [/color][/i] The conspiracy trail gets really muddy, really quick. As its overwhelmingly based in fact free speculation. Which is rarely a reliable indicator of reality. Worse, most conspiracies are needlessly elaborate, fantasticaly complicated and completely unnecessary. It also tends to grow more ornate with time as layer upon layer of speculation are added atop it. Fact based assessments occasionally have to say 'I don't know'. As there's no enough evidence. But you get pretty good results when you base your analysis in[b] what you can factually establish..[/b]..instead of what you imagine. And again, that's the shytting 'collective' you in English. Not you personally. [/quote] The operative word here is "you"... By examining documents, making obsevations, you can draw conclusions that can make you relatively confident... But, "you" will never be 100%, until you do it... And, of course you are right, some who have done it, have gone to jail... This should not be a fear signal, it is a signal to step up your education... And again we come down to the "you" factor, as only "you", can prove it to "yourself"... For example - from your gist, you do not buy the all CAP, trust factor, I do... Do I let your opinion sway me?? No... I am relatively confident, and I want to make it 100%, by me doing it... Another example - I have the ace, that settles the publics 12 card deck... I hold the higher card, if I choose to play it that way... You say I do not, the public, peoples authority is the top... Do I allow you to coerce me with your opinion ??? No... I am confident, that I am right, and I will proceed... Btw, in a deck of cards, the ace can be one, or eleven... Should you decide it to be one, you go under the public...If you play it as eleven, the public is under you... You cannot refuse to play, it is how you play...So no, I do not complain about taxes, fines, etc. I play by the rules in the system, and exercise remedy to the best of my knowledge at this time... I can hear it again - silly sovereign "ilk" theory... No matter, I am right, because the higher nature of my existence and path choice pulls me in this direction... Not for financial /material gains... It is a spiritual quest to rid myself of herd, group mentality... [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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