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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:J 34311994:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MjE3MDQ4XzU3Q0YyQTAy] [i][color=darkblue]Regulate the value of gold? Never made that claim.[/color][/i] Yes, you did talk of the value of gold being regulated. Right here: [quote:Anonymous Coward: 31297288] The DOLLAR value of Gold in the US is regulated by law to be 42.2222 dollars. [/quote] And you're wrong. The value you're citing is for *accounting* purposes in the treasury when reporting the assets its holds. The dollar value of gold in the US is *not* regulated to any particular value. You're citing an accounting contrivance as a national regulation. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what's wrong with your muddled, confused argument. The FRN is unrelated to the value of gold. Gold's price goes up, gold's price goes down...and the dollar chugs along with pretty much the same buying power as it had before. You can't exchange the FRN for gold. You can't redeem the FRN for gold. So why would the Treasury's regulated value for gold for accounting purposes have a thing to do the value of the dollar? There is no reason. Third, the courts already settled this issue in Rickman V. the US. The FRN is lawful money. You say 'uh-uh'. In a legal battle of you v. the courts on legal definitions, the courts win every time. Any other misconceptions you'd like me to pop like a fevered boil? [/quote]
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I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
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"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
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“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
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link to kfor.com
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I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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