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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 33610307:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAwNDUzX0Y4MkMwOUIw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAwMzk2XzIxQkNBNEI2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 33610307:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAwMjk4X0M3QzZFMzg2] I believe that Obamacare only applies to US citizens and that's specifically written in the law. That means that non-resident aliens (including Sovereigns) are exempt from Obamacare. Does anyone know the answer? [/quote] http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1304915/pg1 I know the answer, but I am not going to give it to you, figure it out for yourself, that is part of the problem, you are not willing to put in your own work and even read the thread I have posted [i]with the answers.[/i] Sovereign means "self-ruling" asking someone else for answers you can find yourself (I have shown you where to look) is the mindset and heart of one who needs to be governed, not a self ruling man or woman. [/quote] I wasn't asking you specifically. As a matter of fact, I was hoping that this issue would help lead to clarification for others. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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