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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAxMzI1X0UzRkQ0QkEy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 20179835:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAxMDUwX0RFOTA5N0Iz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 33610307:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAwOTc3X0M1QUYzQzc4] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAwOTM5XzQ2N0JENDdC] Or, send me 150 dollars and I will walk you through it (in redeemed lawful money of course, a postal money order will do just fine). [/quote] I really appreciate your help, I can't thank you enough. However, you're asking me for dollars here. I thought you weren't allowed to use dollars at all? Are you allowed to collect the dollars and give them as a gift to a non-sovereign for example? [/quote] He is an idiot follow him and end up in jail. He is claiming fed. reserve notes are no good but then ask u for them in order to help u. [/quote] You think Federal Reserve notes ARE GOOD? That is laughable. What did people use as money before 1933 or 1919 before the Federal Reserve even existed? Why was there no income tax before 1933? (well, there was, but it was struck down as unconstitutional by SCOTUS). Why is it that 12 USC 411 is STILL Federal law if FRNs are lawful money AS ISSUED? Proceed, private banker. (look up the definition of private banker in your holy UCC book. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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