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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
Ms Sans Serif
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[quote:F F S:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAxNDQyXzJFOEM2RjAy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 34281023:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MDk2Nzc4X0JDQTlFMkVC] and my understanding is the few that have tried the sovreign citizen stance in court do not understand the law or correct syntax and usually purger themselves. [/quote] right here's my take on that. Know your rights, not some of them, all of them, as far as the 'law' is concerned 'He who knows no rights, has none'. Most law in ex british colonies, sorry guys, is based on Maritime law. Soveriegn citizens, freemen etc live by Common Law, this was laid down before Maritime Law came into being, most originating with Alfred pre 1000 AD, hence why he was called 'The Great'. However what i have found on my travels around the world of Freemen/soveriegn citizens is when you have fucked the establishment they try and pull a fast on and revert to 'Canon Law', now this is where it can get interesting as they are falling back to the bible. http://jforjustice.net has a very interesting take on this, i haven't had call to try and use it yet but it is there [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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