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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAyMjA5X0NCMEFBMEQy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 32235185:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAyMDg5XzU3RkVCNA==] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAyMDMyXzc0NzFGRUY3] [quote:Anonymous Coward 34319433:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAxODExX0MzRTgzMzk5] Look, this is all just as made up as all the other bullshit. Law this, law that, there is no law, with things like the NDAA, drones, hollow points, assassinations, there is no law. You are hiding yourself behind a paper tiger, something that is just as much an illusion as their system. Tyranny is tyranny, you cannot contract with anyone who has never signed anything, or willingly entered said contract. You can not scream, yell, and preach to a nation that has been brainwashed from birth, and expect them to sit down and study some legal tripe that is just as complicated and just as idiotic as the system they just woke up from. People are sick of being robbed, stolen, and enslaved. You did say that God is who bestows your freedoms upon you, that is the short and simple truth, and if anyone tries to steal those freedoms, it is Tyranny, and therefore should be dealt with accordingly. [/quote] Well, not all of us are asleep, I do agree their "laws" are not much more than magic spells, they do have power over those who believe they have power and do not know how to use their spells against them and expose them as men behind curtains. In reality, nothing will stop them so long as violence is our only solution, we cannot be "free" collectively in ignorance. But we can exhaust all options personally before we end up in a cabin with SWAT teams deploying "burners". How you choose to counter (or play along with) them is YOUR choice and in the end, that is the only proof I need that we do have power and rights over them. [/quote]Stop paying your taxes and you'll end up like this guy. This is not an illusion, i guess you can believe what you want until the end of your life here on earth. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message591363/pg1 [/quote] Stop paying taxes? what taxes are you talking about? While I do not pay income tax, I pay taxes all the time. Not in prison either, I guess that guys reality is reality for everyone else? You do realize that statistically nearly no one goes to prison for income tax charges, right? The fear mongering about going to prison for income taxes is kind of silly when you actually look at the stats. But, hey, fear is more fun, right? The IRS boogie man!!!! RUN!!! [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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