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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 33610307:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAyMzkwXzYyRDZDOTA4] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAyMjk0XzY0Nzk2NzI2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 33610307:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAyMTg4Xzc2OTJBNDE1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAyMTA1X0MwRkE1MkEw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 33610307:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAxODU1X0EwRTkzMjg0] The naysayers continue to completely ignore this video, I'd like a comment from them on it: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55pjFKalOVc[/youtube] [/quote] I will comment: A warrant was issued for the "person". As soon as that freeman get clipped again with ID, he will be sitting in jail and give in and enter a contractual agreement with the court to get out of jail and pay them their debt notes. From there, he will either learn more and actually free himself, or determine that his personal Guru was full of crap and become a naysayer to the whole concept. [/quote] The only way you can prove your case is through your own conjecture backed up by nothing. You certainly didn't convince me. [/quote] Conjecture of what? Look up the case the video refers too, idiot! Its public record what happened after that video, the case was not dropped and a warrant was issued last time I checked. So, you provide your proof the case was dropped or give us the link so we can see it ourselves. Where are the follow up videos, I saw that one months ago, what happened? [/quote] Maybe I was wrong but without you providing evidence for your claims what you're saying is hearsay with no proof. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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