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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 31297288:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAyNTU0X0NEODMzRUFG] What, exactly, are you asking evidence for? I can show you where he IRS was completely shut down from seizing bank accounts, where people have been given full refunds of withheld taxes, plus interest. I can show you a multimillion dollar judgement (complete with UCC recording and filings) against a Judge in Colorado. I can show you dozens of records of default judgements on PACER (if you have access) I can direct you here: http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/cmps_index.php If court cases, leans, IRS documentation and hundreds of personal testimonies from people redeeming lawful money for decades in some cases is not "evidence" (all of which are linked at that site) then you have a point, but really, you do not. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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