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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 3064678:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTAzNTI2X0Q0NzBBRTIx] [quote:Anonymous Coward 34281023:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MDk3MDUxXzRBQjA0OTJE] [quote:Anonymous Coward 24760791:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MDk3MDI5X0IyQTU3RDg=] The Constitution is a contract with the people and the federal government. If the federal government breaks the contract, then the contract is void. It is as simple as that. [/quote] that contract has to be a contract in the first place-many are not. ta da. [/quote] Just like a loan from the bank, you sign it and poof the debt notes with all kinds of usury and penalties are tied to it. No one at the bank signs anything, it's a unilateral contract as in one party and you need two parties for it to be a LAWFUL contract, but not a legal contract. Default on it and you won't be in court against the banks manager!! No no it will be you the man/woman who gets tricked to assume the a capital letter legal fictional name on the contract up against the corporate name of the bank, in which they have dozens of lawyers at the helm to curry favor of the court to get the judgement in the banks best interest. P.S. You can bet the judge and the lawyer are most likely Freemasons and will either use that blood oath they are sworn to to extract your wealth or just the simple fact the have sworn allegiance to the monarchy under the B.A.R. Why is it that our creator gave us ten LAWS to follow and man has hundreds of thousands?? I follow Gods law and therefore am not subject to man's statutes, acts or policies. This is why they want you further and further away from your creator, seek him and know truth. God bless all you on your journey. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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