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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 34311994:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTA1OTY4XzdCRDVFMDlB] [i]One FIRST HAS TO recognize WHOM you are addressing in the court room/local,state, federal 'governments' are ALL CORPORATIONS, disguising themselves as governments AND, using the power/excuse of CONTRACT LAW in the courts THEY control, to control YOU ![/i] No, the first thing that one has to realize...is that you don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. That you're citing imaginary pseudo-legal mythology back and forth to each other as if by repeating it on message boards that the *actual* law changes. Nope, it doesn't. There's no super secret status that makes you immune to the law. Calling yourself a 'sovereign citizen' doesn't make you immune to any taxation or any law. Its just noise coming out of your head hole that has no relevance whatsoever to your relationship with the law. The 'paper person' nonsense is blithering idiocy. THere aren't 'paper people' and 'real people'. There are just citizens. You making up an imaginary 'secret status' doesn't mean that such a status actually exists. It would be like you arbitrarily declaring that since the law only applies to people wearing purple underwear that you're immune to the law if you go commando. There is no such limitation to the law. Not with underwear, not with your similarly fallacious 'paper people'. You've imagined it all. And it has zero relevance with the actual law. Which would explain the essentially perfect record of failure of the 'sovereign citizens' in court. [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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