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Sovereign citizens: Is this an accurate portrayal?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 17551129:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTA2MTk3XzcwNTQxRjky] [quote:Eagle # 1 7633733:MV8yMTM3ODI1XzM2MTA1ODEyX0Q1ODNGNTc0] One FIRST HAS TO recognize WHOM you are addressing in the court room/local,state, federal 'governments' are ALL CORPORATIONS, disguising themselves as governments AND, using the power/excuse of CONTRACT LAW in the courts THEY control, to control YOU ! First they must dehumanize you to a 'non-entity, fictional person', etc. to put you on their CORPORATE LEVEL by sending you an ALL CAPITAL summons, letter and/or reading your name in court and asking IF that person is here. If you answer up, the word person in legalize MEANS you have reduced yourself to their level OF fictions person, NON entity ! Now your playing THEIR GAME, and they can treat you as such, by their CORPORATE law system. There are many ways around this AND you can have any charge except assault or murder DROPPED, by simply confirming that minutes are being taken, and then saying, " I am a beneficiary of the Trust "as explained by a judge of 13 years on the bench who researched it and posted same on the net under the title of..... " The Matrix and the U.S. Constitution ". Read it and GET an EDUCATION ! Eagle [/quote] Here is a true story; I had criminal charges laid against me, and a summons was issued for me to appear in court... When the officer from court services came to deliver the summons, I met her in the driveway... I signed both copies of the summons, and gave one back to her... She was confused, called a superior, and left... I also went in to court on the day the summons indicated... Got the crown attorney's attention before court started, and put a copy of my summons in front of her, and walked out... This was 9 years ago - not heard a word since... been stopped a few times, and given traffic violation tickets, been across boder, got a passport... Nothing, nada has popped up on the radar screen... All court issues are financial - a public debt has been drawn up, and it has to be settled... This is in reality, the only issue... Doing it immediately on the summons is valid, because it is your credit, and you are endorsing it back to them for settlement... However, if you run it through the courts, then you have dirivatives, making it impossible to settle any other way then time, or time and capital... [/quote]
I really don't know much about this subject. Is this a genuine description of these people of just the M.S.M. demonizing them?
From Kfor TV out of Oklahoma:
"Law enforcement is paying special attention to a re-surging group of individual extremists; sovereign citizens.
They are anti-government Americans who believe the U.S. government has no authority".
"The world-wide web has been a handy tool in sovereign circles, spreading tactics of their particular flavor of lawlessness.
Sovereign citizens usually represent themselves in court, filing nonsensical paperwork on their own behalf.
Many sovereigns document their struggles to be taken seriously, then post them online.
They rarely have much success."
“What I understand people in some of these cases are doing is making the argument that the original constitutional order left people free from the authority of the federal government and maybe from laws at the state level as well,” Blitz said. “So (they say) ‘You can’t apply these laws to me.’ Not surprisingly, the judges have said, ‘Yes we can.’”
Full article with video:
link to kfor.com
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. You've all given me a bit of a crash education on this subject and directed me to some great sources for learning even more. It's bed time for me but I'm looking forward to reading any new post when I get up.
Once again, thank you!
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