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Germans Loved Obama - Now We Don’t Trust Him
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 42628674:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY4NzM5XzJEOUU0NTVD] [quote:Niemand:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY4NjYzX0IxRkUzMjMw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 42628674:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY4NjM3X0NCRTQwMjZD] [quote:Anonymous Coward 40487804:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY4NDc4XzNDQjMwRTk3] The older Germans remember I'm sure but the younger generation doesn't relate to the old folks fears. [/quote] They do. This is actually one of the things they care about. [/quote] I've said this before in another thread, the Germans have not forgotten anything, they have internalized. Why the Germans are monitored most and why the outcry from Germany is the largest? [/quote] True. I also suppose there is some collecting of 'useful' material involved when it comes to spying on politicians or influential people. Useful material to blackmail money or a deecsion on favour of something or someone or a secret 'delivery' of something. Btw, numerous Bundeswehr drones have 'disappered'.;) [/quote]
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In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.
Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems.
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Cover Story: How the NSA Targets Germany and Europe
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Guardian Report: US Engaged in Vast Spying Operation on Europe
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Spying 'Out of Control': EU Official Questions Trade Negotiations
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Growing Alarm: German Prosecutors to Review Allegations of US Spying
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Transatlantic Ice Age - Important American Voices calling: Obama must explain
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