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Germans Loved Obama - Now We Don’t Trust Him
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 1483106:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY5NTE5X0E0OTA5NEQ1] [quote:Niemand:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY5NDg4XzM5Nzc1M0Q=] [quote:Numb9:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY5MzUxX0NBQUFBNTUx] Bush was such a horrible president that he forced the political pendulum to swing so far to the left that now we are stuck with a Neo-Marxist anti-capitalist and anti-American president in the White House IMO. What's worse is that now this current administration has taken the NSA surveillance program that Bush Sr. started and has blown it out the barn doors by expanding the program to spy on everyone including "patriotic" Americans, Europeans and anyone else around the world who may type "Obama" or "surveillance" or "NSA" onto their laptops or other devices. As a matter of fact, this post will likely be going straight to the NSA data mining center here in the states. Yes, we certainly lost our privacy in the name of "security" and I fear it won't be long before this administrations's own version of the brown shirts (I.e. FEMA surge protection force) will be knocking on doors of those who are not in-line with this current administration's policies/ideology. Sadly, we are seeing history repeat itself and there doesn't seem to be much resistance, and when Americans do finally wake up it will be while on the trains heading to FEMA camps just as the Jews were headed to the concentration camps. [/quote] There is much truth in your post, and if you draw the logical conclusion, you know well why they've built FEMA camps and the police state. :hiding::hiding::hiding: [/quote] Well, they aren't planning on exterminating the Mexican immigrants - that's for sure. [/quote]
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In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.
Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems.
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Cover Story: How the NSA Targets Germany and Europe
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Guardian Report: US Engaged in Vast Spying Operation on Europe
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Spying 'Out of Control': EU Official Questions Trade Negotiations
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Growing Alarm: German Prosecutors to Review Allegations of US Spying
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Transatlantic Ice Age - Important American Voices calling: Obama must explain
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