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Germans Loved Obama - Now We Don’t Trust Him
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 42095518:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzcxMDA5XzQzOTQ2NjIw] [quote:Niemand:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY4NjMyX0JCOEVGNkUz] [quote:brassbat:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzY4NDQ1XzY5MkYyMUU5] Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term !:Odickhead: [/quote] Nobody blames the Americans! ;-) I know the Americans are in the absolute majority good and hard working people, enjoying life as we do here. I know, because I have some relatives overseas. The worse must be now, the masses wake up in a world of which only the crazy and conspiracy theorists talked about. [b]Maybe that's why a black became president, because they will pass the buck and stamp him as responsible for this surveillance apparatus.[/b] If you want to understand the Germans a little, you have to read the comment - and then who, if not the Germans had to get up the duty in this case? And all Americans, which basically says "Who cares?", no problem - continue to live in your nutshell. Exactly what they expect from you! [/quote] That sounds plausible. I wish it didn't but the current stirring by MSM on race issues, adds to the plausibility. They have a choice to feed the problem or squelch it and it appears they are feeding it. [/quote]
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In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.
Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems.
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Cover Story: How the NSA Targets Germany and Europe
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link to www.spiegel.de
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Guardian Report: US Engaged in Vast Spying Operation on Europe
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Spying 'Out of Control': EU Official Questions Trade Negotiations
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Growing Alarm: German Prosecutors to Review Allegations of US Spying
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Transatlantic Ice Age - Important American Voices calling: Obama must explain
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