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Germans Loved Obama - Now We Don’t Trust Him
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 42649230:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4Nzc1MzkyXzg4QTAyREVG] [quote:Rawfox:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4Nzc0Mzg5X0JFRDVBMjQz] [quote:davvi:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4Nzc0MTY2X0IzNkQ0NjMy] [quote:Anonymous Coward 42645275:MV8yMjc5MzM0XzM4NzczOTY1X0I5QTA3RTg5] U.S. spying in Germany: The lovely allies Welcome to the Cold War 2.0: Just we were best friends, now the Germans are only "third-class partner." Do Americans still not trust us, almost 70 years after the war? The answer is no. But they trust nobody anyway. http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fkultur%2Fgesellschaft%2Fkommentar-zu-spitzeleien-der-nsa-in-deutschland-a-908820.html Yes, it was a beautiful day, a hot day, when the U.S. President Barack Obama visited Berlin, not even two weeks ago that he was sweating in front of the Brandenburg Gate so much that he took off his jacket and said, [b]"Under friends we can be a little relaxed."[/b] :skull_fing: [/quote] We, the American people, were your friend you were NEVER ours. We have moved on and suggest you do too. [/quote] Moved on to what exacly please ? But you are right, we had to be your friends because you guys won the war. For real we always had trouble with McDonalds and other typical "american ways". We been joking about all shit came from America to Germany but it was a bitter reality. In America a life is worth the shit under your shoes. In Germany a life is worth everything. You guys still have the death penality, you gonna kill people for pissing on your car due to your weapon rights. Nevertheless nobody here can understand your double morality standarts and your nearly annoying call for god and your scary psychopatic christianity actions are just derailed for our european understanding. No my friend, we have moved on, America has moved back. You guys just need more love. [/quote] What's this Euro obsession with fast food? I HATE FAST FOOD, including McDonalds, and so do MILLIONS of other Americans. Fast food doesn't define the U.S. or Americans. Most of us eat regular food just like presumably you do. Neither does stupid pop culture define us. The VAST majority of Americans know perfectly well Hollywood movies are goofy shit, TV shows are fake and lame, 95% of pop 'music' sucks ass. If these are the only things you know about America, than you don't know America. [/quote]
In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.
Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems.
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