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....And Obama gonna take his gun? yeah right....
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[quote:Sledster:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjczODQxXzE4MkU3NkJB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjczNDk5X0FBNDE3OUEx] [quote:Sledster:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjczNDAwXzI1RjdBNEM=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjczMDY2X0JBNkZEMDIz] [quote:AlcoholicRunner:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcyNTYxXzlBN0NFMDBF] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcyMzg4Xzc5QUUwOTk2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 45126405:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcyMjc5Xzg4RjM0RkY4] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcyMTI0Xzg5NzM3OTU5] [quote:Sledster:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcyMDY2XzJEM0I3NDY=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcxOTc5Xzk2MTMwRkY3] [quote:Sledster:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcxOTQwX0M0RTJFNDkw] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcxODEzXzIxNUUyQjU4] [quote:Anonymous Coward 45318999:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcxNzcwX0U1NTE5QTU5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcxNjg5XzFBRDc1NDA1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 45126405:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjcxNjYxXzhBOEZGMUI5] You violate my sense of safety, you get shot. [/quote] Oh so I can just shoot anybody who "violates my sense of safety"? [/quote] Any asshole that enters my home, business, car, etc. with a weapon already drawn is a threat to my life. I don't give a shit if its pointing at my head or the ground. If the gun is already drawn he is trying to convey the message that he is ready to use it therefore I am ready to defend myself and stop him from doing what he intends. [/quote] But somebody in your home is not really a threat now is it? He is just there, for all you know he will run away the moment he sees you, why would you have to kill him over nothing? A threat in my opinion is a guy shooting at you or somebody putting a knife against your throat. Somebody just wondering in your house doesn't seem like a big enough threat to me to just kill somebody over. [/quote] And what would you do? Invite him for tea? You liberal eurotards wouldnt last 10 minutes here. [/quote] well look at it this way, just simple ethics; what is more ethical, co-operating with a burglar or killing them? Killing is always bad so it IS better to co-operate. [/quote] Sure, killing IS always bad, but I would rather the perp be killed than me or my family. If given the choice, what would you do? :boxorox222: [/quote] But you don't know if he is going to kill your family.[b] We don't execute people because they [i]might[/i] do something in the future.[/b] [/quote] If he has a gun pointed at you, there is a good frikken reason to believe he MIGHT do something. ***BANG*** I shoot first. [/quote] For the most part criminals have guns to protect themselves from vigilantes who want to take justice into their own hands. Here most criminals don't have guns cause they don't need to protect themselves. [/quote] ^^^ Liberalism is a mental disorder ^^^ Shitty logic thinking there... Poor criminals. So what if criminals rape you and steal your money... It's all about welfare of poor criminals... wah! wah! Grow a fucking brain, you retard. [/quote] So having a different opinion than others is a mental disorder? Very telling, I am being very reserved in my opinions, I could also be throwing around dick sizes and little man complexes but I try to stay civil. Society is measured by how it treats it's poorest people. Criminals are for the most part victims of their upbringing and environment. They are so poor that they are practically forced to break the law. Nobody is going to starve themselves to death in order to follow the "holy" law. Nobody just wants to rob people and risk getting hurt or put in prison. These people need help, not bullets between their eyes. [/quote] Wow! Just wow!! I have to make an assumption here, because I honestly do not understand the "live and let live" mentality you are spouting here. In your country, you are telling us, that it is perfectly acceptable to rob someone of their money, steal the things in their houses, maybe even carjack you at gunpoint, and the citizens accept this as normalcy? Maybe you treat your criminals too well. Here in the US, we EXPECT EVERYONE to obey the rule of Law. That is the norm, not the exception, and we dont allow someone's upbringing or lack thereof to become an excuse for bad behavior. And how would you propose to "help" them? Reward them for NOT robbing? Give them Government assistance in order to stop them from having to steal? Perhaps make donations to the local criminal's guild? At some point every man must take personal responsibility for his actions. This is the premis that keeps civil societies civil, without personal responsibility there can be no civility. [/quote] No ofcourse it is not normal, it is still punished by LAW, like it should, not by wannabe hero uncle Hank but by a judge who knows what the fuck she is talking about. "And how would you propose to "help" them? " Well what we do here is make sure prison sentences are not too harsh so that the person has a chance to get back into society. If you get 25 years for stealing a cookie how the fuck can they expect such a person not to be fucked up for life IF they are just petty burglars we offer them schooling and housing once they finished their sentencing, also to improve reintegration itno society. Again if you just let them rot with fellow criminals and not offer them anything you basically fuck up their lives for ever. And how does it work? Netherlands murders a year: 250 US murders a year: 15.000 Try to explain that Einstein. [/quote] On a per-capita basis we have less murder than you. Do the math. As far as fucking up their lives, we generally allow three strikes, just like baseball. After the third fuck-up, you're out of society. It seems to work fairly well. Do you provide cable TV to your inmates? Prison time is meant not to change a man, it is meant to hearden his heart. That's what it does. The larger percentage of criminals who are incarcerated WILL become repeat offenders and serve multiple prison terms. That is just the way it is. Let's get back to the root problem. You dont believe a man should be expected to take personal responsibility for his actions. That is the core of the liberal mindset. Blame his upbringing. Blame the system. Blame his environment. Blame the white man. Blame the Jews. Blame everything under the sun, but no, it's not his fault. FUCK THAT! I take my responsibility to my family very seriously, so seriously that I carry a gun every day to ensure that I can continue to work and provide for my family in the event that some idiot robs me and wants to shoot me. [/quote]
this exactly why I will be keeping mine.
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Nearby residents and customers commended Kochanski’s actions, however this is not the first time the bar owner has pulled out his pistol.
“There was another attempted robbery during my Christmas party which I dealt with pretty much the same way. I have no regrets doing it and I would do it again,” said Kochanski.
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