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....And Obama gonna take his gun? yeah right....
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[quote:071676:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5Njc0ODY1X0IwQTJFODk4] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5Njc0MjcxX0EzNDM5ODE2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 45126405:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5Njc0MjQxXzg4NkVDQkQ1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5Njc0MTk0XzRGRUNGRjRF] [quote:Anonymous Coward 45126405:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5Njc0MTIxX0RDNzJEMjBB] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5Njc0MDQ5Xzg1MzE5Nzg5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 36793098:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5Njc0MDE1X0YxRjAyRkU3] [quote:Anonymous Coward 1516308:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjczOTExXzY0OUJFOEM4] [quote:Anonymous Coward 23764026:MV8yMzI1ODI1XzM5NjczODUyXzk4M0MxNjQx] The thing I'm getting at. Is what do you do when confronted with violence? Are you the type of person to allow yourself to be killed, trusting your attacker, or will you actually take an action to defend yourself. [/quote] [b]Well my honest opinion and it might be a bit controversial is that it is better to be killed than to kill. [/b] Killing is ALWAYS wrong. [/quote] And that concludes this conversation. It is pointless to argue with the insane. [/quote] It is just the ethical end of the road. Killing is wrong so if there is a choice between killing somebody or be killed the only logical and ethical choice is to let yourself be killed. Yeah it is harsh but that IS the only logical conclusion you can have if you believe killing is wrong and that is why you take measures to [b]prevent[/b] such a situation from ever happening. [/quote] Wait what??? You would let your child be killed instead of you protecting it? You would allow yourself to be killed and your child be raised without a parent?? WTF? [/quote] We talked about these kind of situations in Philosophy class in high school and yeah if you look at it from a purely reasonable and logical viewpoint it IS better to let yourself be killed than to kill another person. Being murdered is better than being a murderer. A kid growing up with a murdered father is still better than a kid growing up with a father that is a murderer. In the case of the child I don't know, we didn't talk about that situation in that class. I think in that case it would be justified so it shouldn't be punished too harsh. [/quote] What would be the difference if your child was witnessing your murder. You would allow that? [/quote] Look these kind of things are difficult subjects but if given this choice it would be better that he witnessed my murder instead of witnessing me murdering. [/quote] I think the biggest problem you have with the American idiom of self-presevation is because you live and have been raised in a soliclist country where the many out-weight the needs of a few. In American everyone counts. My life is no better than yours, but yours is still no better than mine. If you enter my private space with a weapon, with the intent to cause me harm, whether physical, mental, monetary, or emotional, you have crossed a line. Since I have no way to understand your intent except by the use of the weapon, my intent is to stay alive to continue with my further protection of my loves ones. You raise that weapon, you WILL die. It is that simple. You have threatened me and mine in a place that is mine, you have forfeited your chance to maintain your life at it's present level. Living in this country, you would know this. Living in a strickly socialist country, you have no real comcept of personal freedom, and the right to life, freedom, and liberty. It matters not what the government is doing to take these rights from us, they can not take what is not theirs. It is the same with anyone walking in and demanding the right to steal. [/quote]
this exactly why I will be keeping mine.
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Bartender shoots, kills armed robbery suspect at beer hall
Nearby residents and customers commended Kochanski’s actions, however this is not the first time the bar owner has pulled out his pistol.
“There was another attempted robbery during my Christmas party which I dealt with pretty much the same way. I have no regrets doing it and I would do it again,” said Kochanski.
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