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The Demiurge
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[quote:Craazee8:MV8zMTQyODUwXzU2MjExMDQ5X0RBNTQxQTRB] [quote:ConsciousnessWar:MV8zMTQyODUwXzU2MjA4OTkxXzJFOThCMTgw] Can you explain quote " how creation or how things come from "no"-"thing". Particularly the no-thing and how can something be created from nothing ? Thanx. [/quote] This is a paradox. (And perhaps a paradigm or limit to our understanding?) There can not be nothing because we can't perceive nothing. So, you have two choices. The dimensional reality we perceive must have either been made (from the nothing)...which we can't comprehend. Or it must have always been, and is infinite...repeating endlessly, or somehow a motionless thing (existing outside of time) that was set in motion (requiring a prime mover..the Demiurge). But what is the limit of the demiurge? Infinite and always in existence, or himself created from nothing by something beyond even that. [/quote]
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It's not conceivable that there was nothing.
What does nothing mean?
We recognize Spacial Dimensions, and what we call Time is the change in position of two things relative to each other broken into a measurement(that we create). Atomic time is the 'vibration' of atoms (the change in position of electrons in the atom).
How can there ever have been no Atoms?
The Simple explanation is the 'Singularity'. That at the beginning of 'Time' everything was compressed into a single point. (There was no 'space' and therefore no 'time'. The mass of this point was so great that the force of gravity exploded it and space and time begin.
Theoretically this happens over and over and over. Theoretically this allows for other dimensions where the same process has occurred.
But, can this have always been? Or, must it itself have had a start and then what was there before that?
The Demiurge is the allowance that this did have a beginning, it was put in motion by a 'God'; but, that God may not actually be supreme over the greater process and only supreme in the sense that he began this particular universe. In which case, other transcendent beings maybe have influence here.
Without this you have the inexplicable of infinite infinities.
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