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[quote:Saracen 69152714:MV8zMTQyODUwXzU2MjI4MjYxX0RGOTUxMUNF] [quote:Craazee8:MV8zMTQyODUwXzU2MjA3MjA1X0FDMDEzMTY3] [quote:Saracen 69152714:MV8zMTQyODUwXzU2MTgwNjQxX0UzM0E5OTcw] [quote:Craazee8:MV8zMTQyODUwX0E1RkIyMkND] It's not conceivable that there was nothing. What does nothing mean? We recognize Spacial Dimensions, and what we call Time is the change in position of two things relative to each other broken into a measurement(that we create). Atomic time is the 'vibration' of atoms (the change in position of electrons in the atom). How can there ever have been no Atoms? The Simple explanation is the '[b][color=red]Singularity[/color][/b]'. That at the beginning of 'Time' everything was compressed into a single point. (There was no 'space' and therefore no 'time'. The mass of this point was so great that the force of gravity exploded it and space and time begin. Theoretically this happens over and over and over. Theoretically this allows for other dimensions where the same process has occurred. But, can this have always been? Or, must it itself have had a start and then what was there before that? The Demiurge is the allowance that this did have a beginning, it was put in motion by a 'God'; but, that God may not actually be supreme over the greater process and only supreme in the sense that he began this particular universe. In which case, other transcendent beings maybe have influence here. Without this you have the inexplicable of infinite infinities. [/quote] You see, black people were once one, both spiritually and materially. Then came a (g)od by the name of Yahweh/Jacob/Demiurge/(g)od who wanted to experience imperfection by way of [b][color=red]separation[/color][/b]. Remember in perfection, there is only stagnation or in other-words, little growth. The only way to bring forth a world in which he envisioned, a certain being or collective needed to [b][color=red]made[/color][/b] to manifest such [b]experiences[/b]. www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2848975/pg1 Who are those beings you ask? Archons or by his more commonly known name, Lucifer! http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3042768/pg1 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3068724/pg1 Besides the mention of the Demiurge, you are simply referencing Qabalic creation or how things come from "no"-"thing". Remember, All is mind! Everything we see around us, whether made by our hands or not, all came from the black man and womans mind. We are just the representation of that mind, in physical form! http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2982354/pg1?regp=bm9fMTQ1MDE1NTc2MQ== [/quote] [quote:Saracen 69152714:MV8zMTQyODUwXzU2MTgwNjQxX0UzM0E5OTcw] Remember in perfection, there is only stagnation or in other-words, little growth. [/quote] This is only correct because 'perfection' and 'stagnation' are limited concepts that you are trying to apply to something unlimited (via our paradigms). To say that within perfection there is stagnation, is to say that 'perfection' is not perfect. Your limited perception causes you to enter into a tautology. This is the basis of the poem 'Sunday Morning' by Wallace Stevens. [/quote] Those concepts are only limited in this paradigm because the collective who defines them is [b][color=red]limited[/color][/b]. When Nas said: "Your arms are too short to box with (g)od" He was not kidding lol :Idol1: [/quote]
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It's not conceivable that there was nothing.
What does nothing mean?
We recognize Spacial Dimensions, and what we call Time is the change in position of two things relative to each other broken into a measurement(that we create). Atomic time is the 'vibration' of atoms (the change in position of electrons in the atom).
How can there ever have been no Atoms?
The Simple explanation is the 'Singularity'. That at the beginning of 'Time' everything was compressed into a single point. (There was no 'space' and therefore no 'time'. The mass of this point was so great that the force of gravity exploded it and space and time begin.
Theoretically this happens over and over and over. Theoretically this allows for other dimensions where the same process has occurred.
But, can this have always been? Or, must it itself have had a start and then what was there before that?
The Demiurge is the allowance that this did have a beginning, it was put in motion by a 'God'; but, that God may not actually be supreme over the greater process and only supreme in the sense that he began this particular universe. In which case, other transcendent beings maybe have influence here.
Without this you have the inexplicable of infinite infinities.
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