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Subject Mary, mother of God/theotokos? What are the Christian objections to Catholic and Orthodox Mariology?

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Original Message This thread is from a stricly ontological perspective, as it relates to church creeds, and not about practices like intercessory prayers or Catholic Mariolatry in general.

I'll get things started: Clearly 'mother of God' is an absurdly frivolous Catholic rendition of theotokos, 'God bearer', 'God birther', declared at Ephesus.

So which on is it, 'Mother of God' or God birther'? Neither? Can it be neither without confessing to Nestorianism? Can it be neither without discarding 16 centuries of Christian tradition, doctrine and Christology? Can you discard Ephesus and still keep Chalcedon?

Please keep it civil and on topic.

Discuss.

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