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god CANNOT make mistakes...he CANNOT be taken by surprise either.
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 16659625:MV8zNDgwODI5XzYyMTExMDkwXzQ2NzIyOTU5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 7609942:MV8zNDgwODI5XzYyMTA4ODI3Xzc1OTk1MkIz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 73035359:MV8zNDgwODI5XzYyMTA2MjM4XzExNzU4Qzg2] G-d is only concerned with whether a person is good or not....what does a person do, support with their words, etc? good and bad people can be found in every religion, race, etc. i think it is up to our free will to create heaven or hell on earth everlasting life is reincarnation of some sort, imho [/quote] We don't have free will, never have and never will. Do you think somebody wants to be murdered, raped, beaten, cheated, bullied. That list can go on and on. A person won't be able to hold up their hand and say "STOP! I have free will and you're not going to be able to do any of those vile acts against me!" Do you really think the tormentor will walk away? "Damn, so sorry about that. Let me go do something vile against the people that won't tell me about their free will." No. Better hope you have a weapon to defend yourself. That'll be your only hope. And I shun reincarnation as well. Talk about a never ending jail sentence. [/quote] Free will? Since when? Who was it that planted the tree of good n evil in the garden? God did. Who was it that allowed the snake in? God did. Who made sure they were absent when the serpent tempted and decieved eve? God did. Who was it that used a mighty sword and two strong angels to guard the entrance of the garden from two miserable humans...but funnily enough neglected such stringent security in order to let the most powerful evil being ever INTO the garden? God did. Who formed you in the womb and chose your parents and date and time in history..what religion you would be raised with etc? God did. Who sets your span of life and knows ever day you will live? God does. So...who has to bend over and take it up the rear and love it as a result of all gods foreplanning and strategy? Man does. Who has free will? God does..he chose everything in advance. Man has NO SAY in anything. [/quote] [/quote]
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God is omnipotent..
all knowing and all seeing.
He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.
GOD PLANNED hell.
If He did not he is not all knowing.
He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..
being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..
NO rehab..
and NO WAY OUT..
a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..
followed by an even more suckful eternity.
But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..
the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever.
He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..
to save us from HIMSELF really..
after all..
HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..
PLUS..
he created every torture device there..
HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..
HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..
and all those there DESERVE it..f
or being born HUMAN..
in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..
But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..
sorry..
but you have to BURN.
Also..
if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..
YOU WILL BURN as well..
for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..
wrong parents..
and wrong religion..
even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..
cause if he did NOT choose..
and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.
This worlds justice system..
while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.
You speed..
you get a fine..
you steal..
you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..
you kill..
you get locked away for a fair while..
But Gods justice system is the opposite..
You steal..
you get tortured forever without mercy..
You swear even..
same result..
you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..
and its TORTURE TIME!!!!
God has one punishment for all..
ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..
MERCY..
SYMPATHY..
COMPASSION..
REHABILITATION..
OR LET UP...
And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?
How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?
NONE..
except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..
But when GOD does it..
we honor him and build churches in his name...
But THIS is what is taught...let me break it down some more to its ILLOGICAL conclusion...
God created satan..
and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin into being..
so GOD..
being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..
MUST HAVE PLANNED it..
cause if he did NOT..
he is not all KNOWING..
and if he is not all KNOWING..
he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..
just god..a LITTLE bit mighty..
Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE and could NOT see the future..
But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..making a MISTAKE?
So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake..
which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..
the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..
and this plan..
according to MOST CHRISTIANS..
included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him...
SO ITS PLANNED SADISM...
But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..
especially torture without end..
So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE..
by creating a being that would BRING it to be..
and who ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL...be called LOVE and ALL KNOWING and have things said about him like "HIS MERCY endrues FOREVER...
WHEN ITS CLEAR IT DOES NOT?
Besides..
he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..
NO MORE CRYING..
that ALL those things..
pain..
sorrow..
death..
agony..
will BE NO MORE..
SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT?
So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE??
GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..AND he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history..
OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM!
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