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god CANNOT make mistakes...he CANNOT be taken by surprise either.
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 74534200:MV8zNDgwODI5XzYyMTQ2MTE5X0EzODJDNjBC] [quote:Anonymous Coward 74524589:MV8zNDgwODI5XzYyMTE4ODUyXzc3RDIxOTRC] [quote:Cavjock12:MV8zNDgwODI5XzYyMTE1MjIzX0IwNjlFMjEx] [quote:Anonymous Coward 16659625:MV8zNDgwODI5XzYyMTA4NTU2XzQ1MDc2N0Ix] [quote:Cavjock12:MV8zNDgwODI5XzYyMTA2MjIxXzcxQjIwNTYz] You are missing one important aspect in your little rant. God is infinite and all powerful. So when YOU sin against Him, which every sin is against Him, then your sin against an eternal God is eternal. Therefor requires an eternal punishment. If it didnt then God wouldnt be Just. Your analogy of a kid stealing from his father is wrong because the father isnt eternal or all powerful. In fact it is God who gave the Father the cookie in the first place. So the kid is really stealing from God. Also you are not representing the full story here. One more thought. Hell was not created for US. It was created for the Fallen angels and satan. BUT since you choose to reject God and Jesus the only place you can be apart from Him is in hell. [/quote] So what ya saying is...if i was the PERFECT PARENT..i would be well within my rights to torture my children in hideous ways if they did something wrong? A perfect parent would have perfect love too. So...does perfect love also include torture? Since when has causing untold horror and agony to someone been a demonstration of.perfect love? You christians are without a doubt THE MOST EVIL HEARTED..CALLOUS..TWISTED..SADISTIC..FUCKED IN THE HEAD EVIL ANIMALS EVER TO STAIN THIS PLANET..besides the goatfuckers. And it wasnt all that long ago that YOU HEARTLESS ASSHOLES WERE ACTUALLY TORTURING PEOPLE ON BEHALF OF THIS GOD OF E5EJAL SADISM AND REVENGE AND DARK EVERLASTING HATE. Cause THATS what it would take for god to be what you say her is. A.god of ETERNAL HATE AND HIDEOUS REVENGE..AND DARK TWISTED BLACKMAIL. Your god is THE SAME GOD AS THE MUSLIMS...they too say allah will burn all unbeleivers in hell. SO WHAT FUCKING DIFFERENCE IS THERE BETWEEN GOD AND ALLAH AS BOTH ARE BENT ON TORTURE AND REVENGE? [/quote] NO. You dont understand hell. It is horrible and people will be in agony because God has removed His hand from that area. People reject God so that is what He gives them. Life with without God intervening is hell. Muslims do not worship the same God. They worship allah which is just a name change from baal. Modern day islam came from the pagan religion of baal from the OT. [/quote] So if god and allah are so different from eachother... Why do BOTH of them use the SAME motivations on their followers? Basically...its follow allah...or burn in hell...or follow god...or burn in hell. Both gods claim they are loving. Both gods claim to be the creator. Both gods have issued decrees demanding the deaths of infidels. Both gods threaten you with eternal torture. So what is the damn difference? [/quote] I see no difference. [/quote]
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God is omnipotent..
all knowing and all seeing.
He knew long before he created anyone that billions of beings he was about to create were destined to be tortured by being burnt alive forever by him in a place he created JUST for that purpose.
GOD PLANNED hell.
If He did not he is not all knowing.
He is also a TORTURE expert and has seen to it that the people in hell suffer to the UTMOST every second of their eternity..
being so compassionate and merciful God also saw to it that there would be NO correction there..
NO rehab..
and NO WAY OUT..
a Just and fair "Punishment of eternal duration for the mere sin of being created and born into a world where life generally sux..
followed by an even more suckful eternity.
But Jesus DIED to save us from this place he INTENDED us to go to..
the place HE created to roast the vast majority of people alive in unbearable agony forever.
He died to save us from HIS JUSTICE..
to save us from HIMSELF really..
after all..
HE RUNS and MAINTAINS HELL..
PLUS..
he created every torture device there..
HE creates the flames by the word of his mouth..
HE knows every bit of agony that goes on there..
and all those there DESERVE it..f
or being born HUMAN..
in a fucked up crazy loveless world with about 20 million religions to choose and confuse..
But if we choose wrong..with our very LIMITED understanding of life or eternity..
sorry..
but you have to BURN.
Also..
if you are born into a religion like islam or Bhuddism or some such..
YOU WILL BURN as well..
for DARING to be born to the wrong culture..
wrong parents..
and wrong religion..
even though GOD chooses who gets born to who and where..
cause if he did NOT choose..
and you are born by MISTAKE into the wrong religion..then God is not all KNOWING and NOT in control at all.
This worlds justice system..
while unfair in a lot of cases usually fits the punishment to the crime.
You speed..
you get a fine..
you steal..
you get a bigger fine and locked away for a bit..
you kill..
you get locked away for a fair while..
But Gods justice system is the opposite..
You steal..
you get tortured forever without mercy..
You swear even..
same result..
you do anything wrong no matter how big or small..
and its TORTURE TIME!!!!
God has one punishment for all..
ETERNAL TORTURE with NO PAROLE..
MERCY..
SYMPATHY..
COMPASSION..
REHABILITATION..
OR LET UP...
And HIS ways are supposed to above OURS?
How many fathers on earth would torture their kids for the rest of their lives for stealing a cookie from the cookie jar?
NONE..
except the really fucked up ones who DO get locked awy for doing it..
But when GOD does it..
we honor him and build churches in his name...
But THIS is what is taught...let me break it down some more to its ILLOGICAL conclusion...
God created satan..
and he KNEW BEFORE he created satan that satan WOULD bring sin into being..
so GOD..
being in ULTIMATE CONTROL of everything..
MUST HAVE PLANNED it..
cause if he did NOT..
he is not all KNOWING..
and if he is not all KNOWING..
he is NOT GOD ALMIGHTY..
just god..a LITTLE bit mighty..
Plus IF God created satan and DIDNT KNOW satan would create sin..then GOD MADE A MISTAKE and could NOT see the future..
But who ever heard of a being who knows EVERY POSSIBLE FUTURE..making a MISTAKE?
So if he DIDNT MAKE a mistake..
which is IMPOSSIBLE for an ALL KNOWING BEING to do..
the he MUST have PLANNED THE WHOLE THING RIGHT FROM THE START..
and this plan..
according to MOST CHRISTIANS..
included creating a place to torture TRILLIONS of BEINGS he KNEW IN ADVANCE would reject him...
SO ITS PLANNED SADISM...
But we all know that TORTURE is EVIL..
especially torture without end..
So how can GOD who is ALL KNOWING and ALMIGHTY who PLANNED SIN to BE..
by creating a being that would BRING it to be..
and who ALSO have planned the ULTIMATE EVIL...be called LOVE and ALL KNOWING and have things said about him like "HIS MERCY endrues FOREVER...
WHEN ITS CLEAR IT DOES NOT?
Besides..
he says there will be NO MORE TEARS..
NO MORE CRYING..
that ALL those things..
pain..
sorrow..
death..
agony..
will BE NO MORE..
SO HOW can this be TRUE if TRILLIONS OF BEINGS are going to be spending ETERNITY DOING JUST THAT?
So this being who is LOVE>.who CANT LIE..TOLD A LIE??
GET your FACTS straight chritians..either GOD makes mistakes..AND he is a liar..and THUS the most evil SADIST in history..
OR YOU ARE ALL WRONG ABOUT HIM!
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