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[quote:Halcyon Dayz:MV81NjAzNTVfODU3MDUxMV9CQkRBNTdERQ==] [quote:Schmieder 324203]Dude, It was viewing the ships as they left the harbor and people noticed they could only see the top half after some distance occurred between the viewer and the ship. THAT, is what started the question "Is the world really flat or is it rounded?" A simple observation lead to the discovery of the world being round, spherical.[/quote] Exactly. A VERIFIABLE, REPEATABLE observation. Everybody can climb a tree and discover he can see farther now. That is the scientific method at work. [quote:Schmieder 324203]And tell me, what scientific instruments back then were used to calculate the earths shape? Their brains, and it was a bunch of sailors that actually lead the discovery. A bunch of alcoholic sailors.[/quote] They used the sun, a stick, and a tool called mathematics. Don't smear the sailors. They did a hard and dangerous job. One requiring considerable intelligence. [quote:Schmieder 324203]AND, those who 1st supported the idea the world was rounded were ridiculed constantly, they were socially unaccepted.[/quote] Do you have any evidence to support that claim? [quote:Schmieder 324203]It was not scientists today who made the discovery then.[/quote] No, it was scientists then. As was stated. [quote:Schmieder 324203]In fact, the Greeks before Columbus's time new the world was round.[/quote] So did the Arabs, Indians, and Chinese. (To name a few.) During the Middle Ages most educated people where aware that the Earth was a sphere. BTW, Columbus was wrong. He thought that the circumference of the Earth was 25,255 kilometres at most. [quote:Schmieder 324203]The church was suppressing the idea from the public.[/quote] Do you have any evidence to support that claim? (I'm sure DrPostman will be here shortly with a load of links to proof that just isn't true. It's a pet peeve of his.) [quote:Schmieder 324203]Just like TPTB are suppressing knowledge now![/quote] Do you have any evidence to support that claim? [quote:Schmieder 324203]Educate yourself.[/quote] Ditto. [/quote]
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What can I say besides, Good Lord, this thread brought every crazy that has ever visited GLP. And, uh, thanks for 34 pages of craziness.
A special thanks to Geogal. She tried her best to teach people here and she's awesome. Thanks Geogal.
In the past, I noticed the sun would set closer to Mount Evans at this time of year. That's on the front range of the Rocky Mountains in Denver, Colorado. Then after the summer solstice, it would start moving south again.
For the past couple of years, the sun has been setting much farther north -- closer to the Eagles Nest Ridge by Vail and even beyond that this year near Rabbit Ears pass as viewed from Denver.
It's very noticeable from where I live and easy to tell the huge change from earlier years. Just thought I'd share.
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