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BREAKING: A REAL 1960'S HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE COMPARED TO OBAMA'S COLB
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[quote:SHR:MV82Njg0MDlfMTAxNzE3MThfNkRCQzhFQTQ=] [quote:Dragon Child] SHR - check out this link - they've got a good shot of a real Hawaiian COLB - complete with signature and stamp, which obama's is missing. http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm Also - The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era. http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/hawnbirth.html Who knows how old he actually was when his mother filed! Even today - they really don't ask for much proof of anything in Hawaii. [/quote] I have seen that, it is also old. There are more up to date photos. There are also several high resolution photos of Obama's COLB. I believe it is real, although some do not, and they do have some pretty good evidence, I however am not convinced it is a forgery. It does have the raised stamp in the other photos. Atlas probably has the best on the "Kos" scan COLB, which is the one you linked. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html Want to see another reeeeal interesting Obama document? http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html Here is the factcheck article. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Some questions raised about it. Before we go any further, let me stop to say this: YES, I also believe that Obama was born in the USA. I also believe that the Obama COLB reflects his original birth certificate. Read this blog. The issues are multiple citizenships and identities, the status of his current citizenship, updated birth certificates, etc., not to mention his lack of transparency. I found this part of the Factcheck article particularly interesting: We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that’s when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and “all the records we could get our hands on” according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn’t release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama’s citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: “[We] couldn’t get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we’ve found out it’s pretty irrelevant for the outside world.” The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641. Interesting, indeed. I have the following questions for Factcheck. Since they are so on-top of this story, I’m sure they have answers: 1. What took the campaign so long to show an actual document to the media? 2. What other media did the campaign offer to show the COLB to, and have any others seen it and touched it, handled and photographed it? Or only Annenberg-owned Factcheck? 3. Why did the campaign go to such trouble to digitally black out the certificate number when it could have stuck a piece of solid black tape over the number, especially since, as Factcheck reported, they were in such a hurry? 4. Why did Janice Okubo tell a reporter that the COLB was ordered “this month” (June 2008 ) if it was ordered in June 2007? 5. Since Factcheck is seemingly in the business of helping the Obama campaign fight smears, did Factcheck ask the campaign about the rumor that Republicans are holding Barry Soetoro’s birth certificate? If so, what was the campaign’s response? If not, why not? And finally… 6. How did Factcheck end up getting this access? Did they ask the campaign, or did the campaign offer to show it to Factcheck? The article is mysteriously vague on that point: “FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate.” “There’s part of this story that doesn’t add up: This is FactCheck’s comment: ‘We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that’s when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and “all the records we could get our hands on” according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn’t release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama’s citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: “[We] couldn’t get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we’ve found out it’s pretty irrelevant for the outside world.” The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.’ Obama’s campaign is saying they ‘rushed’ to release the document and couldn’t get help from the DOH on deciding what to do about the number. Now this is from the Honolulu Advertiser: ‘Health officials contacted the Obama campaign a few months ago in response to the persistent inquiries “to see if they could try and resolve the issue with the people who were asking questions,” she said.’ A few months ago should have been BEFORE Obama’s campaign ‘rushed’ to post the document. We’re supposed to believe they couldn’t figure out whether it was safe to use the number?? Further, Okubo says: ‘”The thing that’s redacted is just our file number,” she said. “Potentially, if you have that number, you could break into the system.”‘ So we have Obama’s peeps saying the number is no big deal and are showing it at FactCheck, yet Okubo, only a week ago, says it might be a big deal. Further, are we really to believe that the DOH wouldn’t cooperate with Obama’s campaign in telling them what to do about the number?? It’s time for these people to start telling the truth.” http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/factcheckorg-has-new-birth-certificate-story/ [/quote]
This is a birth certificate that was issued by the State of Hawaii in 1967;
REAL HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE
link to freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com
This is what an official Hawaiian birth certificate looked like in the 1960's and not the misleading Certificate of Live Birth put out by Obama;
MISLEADING CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH
link to www.suitablyflip.com
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