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Subject The mystic Maria valtorta and the alleged words of Mary to her describing the passion
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Original Message Mary says:

"When in the wrath of Good Friday I encountered My Son at a crossroads which led to Golgatha, not a word emerged from our lips except 'Mother!' and 'Son!'

Around us there were Blasphemy, Ferocity, Mockery, and Curiosity. It is useless, in the face of these four Furies, to expose the heart with its holiest beats. They would have hurled themselves upon it to wound it even more, for when man touches the perfection of Evil, he is capable of crime not only towards bodies, but also towards the thought and feeling of his neighbor.

We looked at each other. Jesus, who had already spoken to the compassionate women, inciting them to weep over the sins of the world, just looked at me fixedly, through the veil of sweat, tears, dust, and blood which formed a crust over His eyelids.

He knew that I was praying for the world and that I would have wanted to bend Heaven to come to His aid by relieving not His torture--for it had to be fulfilled by the eternal decree--but its duration. I would have wanted to bend it at the cost of a martyrdom by Me thoughout life. But I could not. It was the hour of Justice.

He knew that I loved Him more than ever. And I knew that He loved Me and that His Mother's kiss would have been a relief for Him more than the veil of the compassionate Veronica and every other help. But even this torture was needed to redeem the sins of lovelessness.

Our gazes met, interlocked, and separated, lacerating our hearts. And then the mob overwhelmed and pushed the Victim towards His altar and hid Him from the other victim, who was already on the altar of sacrifice and who was I, the Mother of Sorrows.

When I see you so hard, obstinate in sin, and consider that our boundless twofold torture has been of no avail to make you good, I wonder what greater torment was needed to neutralize Satan's venom in you and do not find it, for there is no greater torment than ours.

From the moment of My Immaculate Conception I kept Satan's head under My heel as the sinless one. But, having been unable to corrupt My body and My soul with his venom, he has sprayed that venom like an infernal acid onto My motherly Heart, and, if it is immaculate by the grace of God, it is grieved to the utmost degree by the work of Satan, who has mortally pierced it through the work of the sons of man who are the slayers of My Son, from the hour of Gethsemane until the end of the world.

The Mother tells you, creature who are dear to Me, that in the blessedness of Heaven the offenses you committ against My Son rise to wound Me like arrows, and each of them reopens the wound from Good Friday. The wounds My Heart bears on your account are more numerous than the stars in the firmaments of God. And you do not have mercy on the Mother who has given you Her life.

I will come back to speak to you today because I want to keep you with Me all day. I am the Queen in Heaven more than ever today, and I am taking your soul with Me.

You are a girl who knows little about her Mother. But when you know many things and come to know Me not as a distant star, whose ray alone is seen and whose name is known, not just as an ideal and idealized entity, but as a living and loving reality, with My heart as the Mother of God and the Mother of Jesus, as the Woman who understands the pains of woman because the most atrocious ones were not spared Her and She has only to recall Her own to understand those of others, you will then love Me as you love My Son--that is, with your whole self."

Same Day, at 12:00 Noon

Mary says:

"It was the mercy of Longinus that allowed Me to approach the Cross, at which I had arrived by way of steep shortcuts, carried more by love than by My own strength.

Longinus was an upright soldier who did his duty and exercised his right with justice. He was already predisposed, then, towards the miracles of Grace. Because of that mercy of his, I obtained for him the gift of the drips from the Side, and they were his baptism in grace, for his soul was thirsty for Justice and Truth.

At dawn on the day of Jesus' birth, the angels had said: 'Peace on earth to men of good will.' At sunset on the day of His death, the same Christ was giving this man of good will His Peace. And Longinus was the first son born to Me from the labor of the Cross, for Disma was the last one to be redeemed through the word of Jesus of Nazareth, as John was the first one, and I might say that he, with his heart like a lily made of diamonds inflamed by love, was the light born of Light, and the Darkness was never able to obscure it.

I had done nothing but take this 'son of Christ' from the hands of My Son, initiating the period of My spiritual maternity with a flower which had already opened to Heaven--My spiritual maternity, rising like a purple rose from the palms nailed to the trunk of the Cross, but likewise provided to men by Christ's love for His Mother, who would no longer have a Son.

A miracle of love marked the era of evangelization; a miracle of love was the era of redemption, for all that comes from My Jesus is love and all that comes from Mary is also love. The Mother's heart does not differ from the Son's except in divine Perfection.

From the height of the Cross the words had descended slowly, spaced in time like the striking of hours on a heavenly clock. And I had gathered all of them in, including the ones referring least to Me, for even a sigh of the Dying One was gathered in, breathed in, by My hearing, My eyes, and My heart.

'Woman, here is Your son.' And from that moment on I have given children to Heaven, begotten by My pain. A virginal birth, like My first one, this mystical birth of you for Him. I give you to the light of the Heavens through My Son and My pain. And if this giving birth, which began with those words, lacks the wails of rent flesh, for My flesh was immune from sin and from the condemnation of giving birth through pain, my torn heart wailed voicelessly with the silent moaning of the spirit, and I can say that you are born by way of the passage opened by My pain as a Mother in My heart as a Virgin.

But the word that was the queen of that cruel April afternoon remained one alone: 'Mother!' My Son's only comfort was to call Me, for He knew how much I loved Him and how My spirit was ascending onto the Cross to kiss My holy Tortured One. It was repeated more and more frequently and painfully as the agony increased like a rising tide.

The great cry the evangelists speak about was this word. He had said everything and done everything; He had entrusted His Spirit to His Father and called upon the Father in His boundless pain. And the Father had not shown Himself to the One with whom He had been well pleased until that hour and who, burdened with a world's sins, was now looked upon with severity by God. The Victim called His Mother. With a wail of lacerating pain which pierced through the Heavens, causing forgiveness to rain down from them, and which pierced through My heart, causing blood and tears to rain down from it.

I gathered in that cry, in which, because of the contractions of death, and of that death, the word foundered in an agonizing lament, and I bore that sound within me like a sword of fire until Easter morning, when the Victor entered, gleaming more than the sun on that serene morning, more beautiful than I had ever seen Him before, for the Tomb had swallowed up My Man-God and was giving Me back a God-Man, perfect in His virile majesty, jubilant over the trial which had been fulfilled.

'Mother' then, too. But--O daughter!--this was the cry of His uncontainable joy, which He shared with Me by clasping Me to His Heart and cleansing His Mother's kiss of the absinthe of vinegar and gall.

Let it not cause you amazement if, on the feast of My purity, I have spoken to you of My pain. For the sake of justice, a gift of the one benefited is set against every gift of God. Every election brings with it duties which are at once tremendous and sweet and which become eternal rejoicing when the trial is over.






The gift, on My part, of being the Mother of the Redeemer--that is, the Woman of Sorrow--had to correspond to the supreme gift of the sinless Conception. And the agony of Golgotha is the crown set upon the glory of My Immaculate Conception."

Written by Maria Valtorta



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