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[quote:**ZetaMax**:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzI2MDI1ODNfQkM3QUQyQTY=] [quote:Dr. Astro:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzI2MDAyNjZfRkRENUQ1QTk=] [quote:**ZetaMax**:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzI1OTc1ODVfRTk0Mzk3N0U=] [quote:Dr. Astro:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzI1OTcwNjJfRUY2RkVEQjg=] [quote:**ZetaMax**:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzI1OTcwMDJfQjkzNTRBM0U=] "We" - meaning the 20%, and I would definitely put YOU in that category. But as such, you are a [b]HORRIBLE[/b] spokesman for the 80% who you're clearly not good at relating too (a flaw I've noted in MANY folk with High IQ scores). [/quote] You have no idea what you're talking about. But since you don't have the guts to come to an actual star party, you'll never find out that other amateur astronomers are very much like me, usually with even better equipment. [quote:max] It's even worse when the brainy types get together - the arrogance GOES OFF THE CHARTS. [/quote] Well then you should definitely come to the star party and help balance that out. [/quote] >>[i] you'll never find out that other amateur astronomers are very much like me, [b]usually with even better equipment[/b].[/i] I don't doubt that [i]for a minute[/i]. [/quote] Wow, you really have no room to talk melfy. When was the last time you tracked a satellite in broad daylight? [quote:max] And I'm sure that just like a gathering of vintage muscle car owners, most are there to SHOW OFF THEIR "BETTER" EQUIPMENT, [/quote] No, in fact most are there to compare notes and enjoy the friendship of like minded people who also enjoy observing the night sky. If they were just there to show off their equipment, they wouldn't come back year after year with the same telescope to meet with the same people. [quote:max] The "ride in the country" (so to speak) is entirely secondary, and not the primary reason for "showing up". [/quote] Again, you have nothing to base this on since you're too gutless to actually show up and see what it's like to spend a week under dark skies surrounded by people who know more about what's out there than you do. [quote:max] Anyone wanting to do "serious" astronomy, is not going to find a "party" atmosphere conducive to productive "work" on some pet project. [/quote] Holy cow, you have no idea what the atmosphere is like. How many star parties have you attended? ZERO! And yes, I've worked on pet projects myself at Chiefland, as did others around me. [/quote] >> [i]No, in fact most are there to compare notes and enjoy the friendship of like minded people who also enjoy observing the night sky. If they were just there to show off their equipment, they wouldn't come back year after year with the same telescope to meet with the same people.[/i] I spent a week with Dr. Greer at one of his "trainings" back in 2006. No less than 2/3 were regular GROUPIES that were somehow independantly wealthy - and traveling all the over the world with him was something [i]they just liked to do[/i]. In a private moment, he was actually pretty derisive of them - for other than the fees they paid to participate, he considered them altogether "worthless". I can guarantee you, a "star club" has no shortage of these types - who consider themselves "erudite" because they hang around [i]smart[/i] people. Very convenient, because unlike truly organic relationships, they can be assured that the "group" will not reject them, or "unmask" them. Now of course there are participants "like you" who really, Really, REALLY care about astronomy. But if you seriously think you're in the "majority" - heh, I got some prime Florida real estate to sell you ... >> [i]Again, you have nothing to base this on since you're too gutless to actually show up and see what it's like to spend a week under dark skies surrounded by people who know more about what's out there than you do.[/i] Look "kid" (I'm probably two decades your senior), I've been around more people, events, and circumstances than I care to recall. There's nothing "special" about a star club. In my younger years I was always amused by a friend's endless recounting of the CUT-THROAT politics of the crafter's tent at the Wayne County Fair in Detroit. You'd think she was describing the "Sopranos". People lie, exaggerate, back-stab, maneuver, make promises they don't keep, bore everybody with thier constant attention hogging ... and in between all that, occasionally apply applique to an apron. I KNOW a "star club" is no different. I've seen these dynamics EVERYWHERE. On top of all that, there's certainly more than a couple "undercover" types on the DOD/CIA/FBI/NASA payroll as well - wandering around, and ready to POUNCE on any conversation that sounds like it's getting too far "out there". I'm not saying there isn't "good astronomy" going on at these events - just not as "much" as you're implying, and certainly not enough to make the [i]certainty[/i] that something like "the Black Knight Satellite" would be discovered and consistently tracked - a foregone conclusion. [/quote]
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Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
Feel free to quote
ANY
poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.
Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last
Six
years to provide
ANY
truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd
Failed
predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".
Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on
Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!
PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.
Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.
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