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[quote:Dr. Astro:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzY5MjQ3OTJfOEI1MDlENjU=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 28778741:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzY5MjQzMDFfQzQ5MkRGNEE=] [quote:Dr. Astro:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzY5MjAzNDRfNUZGNjc5OTY=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 27406633:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzY5MjAxMzRfMTMzMzNCM0Y=] [quote:Circuit Breaker:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzY5MTY0MzVfMzRFQzRF] [quote:Anonymous Coward 34325181:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzY5MDAwMDBfNDQ3MTk1QjI=] Of course the earth is not "halted" - it never orbited the sun to begin with. [/quote] :stupidstrong: :zwrong2: [/quote] [youtube]http://youtu.be/0jHsq36_NTU[/youtube] [/quote] Wrong. The planets are not trailing behind the sun in a "vortex" and the motion of the solar system through the galaxy is not at a right angle to our orbital motion around the sun. The solar apex, our solar system's direction of travel projected onto the sky has the coordinates of about 18hr RA, +30 degrees Dec (http://books.google.com/books?id=RacoITLoz_oC&pg=PA350&lpg=PA350&dq=solar+apex+coordinates&source=bl&ots=Q58OU7qiM0&sig=Dmkn_a5aB_ehvan3Pv0i72t8d2E&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EA7LUNXgB6nE2gWxiYCwCA&ved=0CFoQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=solar%20apex%20coordinates&f=false ) whereas our north ecliptic pole has coordinates of about 18hr RA, +66.5 degrees Dec. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecliptic_pole Therefore, our planet is at some points in its orbit "ahead" of the sun in the sun's direction of travel through the galaxy, specifically this condition is at its peak when the sun's position along the ecliptic in our sky is at 6hr RA, in other words, at the June solstice. [/quote] You seem pretty sure of yourself. A LOT of smart people would beg to differ. [/quote] LMFAO! Yes, I'm quite "sure of myself," that's not a bad thing. It's called being informed and intelligent. I'm well versed in celestial mechanics and the motion of the solar system. I do not claim to be the smartest, but of those who know more about it than me I have yet to see any of them suggest that the solar apex and ecliptic pole coincide with each other. Whether you consider our direction of travel relative to the local stars in our galaxy (the solar apex) or even if you consider the motion of the local standard of rest within the arms of our galaxy ( http://www.gb.nrao.edu/~fghigo/gbtdoc/Reid_GalacMotionApj2009.pdf ) we are still not moving towards the ecliptic pole and we are still ahead of our sun at certain times of the year (in the latter case the vector of our direction of travel points to about 20h 57m, +47d 53' which is separated from our ecliptic pole by about 30 degrees and places us ahead of the sun relative to its direction of travel in August). [/quote]
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Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
Feel free to quote
ANY
poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.
Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last
Six
years to provide
ANY
truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd
Failed
predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".
Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on
Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!
PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.
Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.
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