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[quote:Dr. Astro:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzg0NDg5MzBfQkMxODFCNTI=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 41604005:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzg0Mzk2OTBfNDczNzBGOTA=] [quote:Dr. Astro:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzg0MzU3NjJfNjVCNUE3RkM=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 41604005:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzg0MzM5NTVfRkYwOTEzNEE=] Another thing I think it is important to clarify.... Do you believe in the existence of shills or disinformists on internet message boards (simple question)?? And if your answer is yes, what criteria would you use to distinguish such posters?? Please do tell [/quote] I know I do, all the time, especially in the early morning hours. They're pretty easy to spot; broken english, sometimes even random letters in place of the user name. They're always advertising for some shady website, frequently one that claims to be able to enlarge my penis. Having no need of such enhancements, I tend to ignore the shill's messages and report the post as spam for free karma points. [/quote] Don't sell you self short there Phil..... [/quote] What makes you think my name is Phil? [quote:AC] "Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. For this reason, it is synonymous with and sometimes called black propaganda. It is an act of deception and false statements to convince someone of untruth. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false. Unlike traditional propaganda techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions. A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies, or to reveal part of the truth while presenting it as the whole (a limited hangout). Another technique of concealing facts, or censorship, is also used if the group can affect such control. When channels of information cannot be completely closed, they can be rendered useless by filling them with disinformation, effectively lowering their signal-to-noise ratio and discrediting the opposition by association with many easily disproved false claims."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation Do any of you think that the description above shills has any basis in reality? [/quote] When it comes to Nibiru/Planet X/poleshift crap, no. I have not seen a single shred of evidence that those subjects are targeted with "disinformation" by "shills." I do see cult-like followers of various proponents of it "shilling" for their cult, sometimes while lying and denying their own interest or adherence to the cult, but I think the term "disinformation" is a bit too strong in that case as it carries with it a connotation of a larger plan orchestrated by a master mind or group. It can better be described by the true meaning of the term "shill," "a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill Obviously there is some degree of overlap in those definitions, but I find the term "shill" to be more fitting of those people. Most of what they spew falls under the heading of misinformation since they don't realize how wrong it is. They may seriously believe the people they are fighting against are themselves "shills" of NASA, the government, etc, but ironically we're not. People like me are just legitimately interested and knowledgeable about science, astronomy, etc, and we enjoy debunking. Nancy received more attention from amateurs than most partly because she used to post her claims on a usenet for astronomy filled with amateur astronomers. Many of us are just that, amateur astronomers, and our interest in the subject is not limited to Nancy's claims, but we don't mind applying our knowledge to those claims. It's made for at least one enjoyable impromptu star party. http://www.laughton.com/paul/rfo/nancy/mark.html That one was before my time, but I've had fun with virtual online star parties webcasting from my scope nonetheless. [/quote]
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Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
Feel free to quote
ANY
poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.
Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last
Six
years to provide
ANY
truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd
Failed
predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".
Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on
Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!
PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.
Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.
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