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[quote:Menow 2913051:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMjE3MTFfNjgxODA4QUI=] [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] [quote:Menow 2913051:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTE5MzZfODk3NEE4NTA=] You're asking questions about how a rational person would act.[/quote] No, I describe occurences of how a person reacted in [u]rational ways[/u] to avoid exposure. If she were believing her crap, wouldn't she be suprised/baffled/stunned herself when she sees her statements being wrong black on white? {[/quote] I get what you're saying. It's nothing new for Nancy. I guess it's always been a hard call- whether she is a pathological liar or a fanatical believer in her own story. BOTH defy all sensibility. Like I said, for years Nancy has said all sorts of things that she can't possibly believe are true. I just think it's likely that she couldn't go on with such obvious falsehoods unless she finds a way to believe them. I know it doesn't make "sense", but neither does being able to knowingly lie over and over and over and over and over again. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] Wouldn't she respect a critical attitude at all or at least treat it in another manner since it was absolutely sincere and essential for an appropiate view? [/quote] Wouldn't she, as in what would any rational person do? I don't know that that applies. Did/does she? No. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] I know this could be all swept under the table as "obsessive conviction to the belief", but again THE WAY she handled these occurences prove a clear aimed-, rational approach to obfuscate the fact that she is lying. [/quote] Seen it for years. Nancy creates complex graphics and explanations in support of her story- whatever it takes. I think a person can't do all of that if they don't believe any of it. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] I think the fact that you mentioned that you have had experiences with other people on that manner (channeling etc) is preventing you from looking at Nancy in an objective manner. [/quote] Why? I was just going to mention that. It is exactly WHY I have the opinion I have. I have seen the "always right" thing happen with channels before. They can contort their own personal view until things can seem "right" to them. It goes beyond 'channeling' with Nancy. I have always though that Nancy is '[i]possessed[/i]' by whatever "Zetas" is. The results of that is how Nancy can do what she does. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] You do think Nancy believes Earth is halted and Flareberto's images being real? Really? [/quote] I think she has the ability to ignore any 'problems' in her story. Always has. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] Don't you see the manipulative ways she uses like avoiding anything certain, or only jumping on those cases where speculation is possible? [/quote] Yes. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] How about the occurences were people layed traps for her, yet she plays as she was never wrong? [/quote] What about it? See above. You are saying that no normal, rational person could do what Nancy has done. That applies either way- no matter if Nancy believes what she says or not. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] Menow, by all respect, Nancy in NO WAY appears like a mindless slave of her belief. [/quote] "Mindless"? No, "mindless" is not the right description. There are way of applying the 'mind' which defy all logic. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] It has clear manipulative, rational structures in my opinion.. [/quote] Have you ever met, or even heard of anyone else who could intentionally, consciously, lie constantly for over a decade? [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] BTW: Maybe you want to elaborate on those other experiences you had? That way we can look for differences and similarities which might help us looking at it from different perspectives. [/quote] See above. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] I could be wrong, but given she reacted in such typical ways (for liars) don't leave much possibilities of attributing that to conviction of a certain belief whatsoever. [/quote] There is nothing "typical" about Nancy's behavior. Think about it. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] Nancy wasn't just blocking exposure (which could be attributed to someone really believing into it), she was actively trying to switch the roles by all means possible! (a selfish-, manipulative act of desperation) [/quote] Think about what Nancy has to loose if she is wrong- in her OWN mind. Desperation would be a good description of what she feels about that. [quote:MoreAboutTunnelVision:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTkwMzVfREExOEVBOEE=] [quote:Menow 2913051:MV84MTQ3MzlfNDAxMTE5MzZfODk3NEE4NTA=] Some people have an almost unlimited ability for self-deception. [/quote] True! This can accounts for all of us, denial that is. [/quote] Which is why I can believe that Nancy has a severe case of that, fueled by internal manipulation by way of [b]possession[/b]. People can and DO become possessed when entertaining other entities to the extent Nancy has done. As always, thanks for your contribution. Cheers. [/quote]
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Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
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poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.
Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last
Six
years to provide
ANY
truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd
Failed
predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".
Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on
Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!
PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.
Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.
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